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My wife has asked me to get my kids handguns for Christmas ...

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by PcolaDawg, Nov 24, 2008.

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  1. PcolaDawg

    PcolaDawg Member

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    MAN I LOVE THAT WOMAN!!!!!

    Anyway, I have three boys and my Wife really does want me to get them handguns for Christmas, which is too cool.

    They are ages 16, 18, and 21. All three are very mature and are familiar with weapons, although mainly rifles and shotguns. The 18 year old, although a senior in high school, joined the Army National Guard last year and went to Army Basic Training last summer, and will be heading back after he graduates high school to train in his MOS (Cavalry Scout). He has already earned a full ROTC scholarship for college and wants to be an officer in the infantry. I believe they train Cav Scouts on pistols, so hopefully he can get a head start now.

    I've done a little bit of research and I'm starting to think the Ruger SR9 would be the best choice. They have safeties on the frame (unlike the Glock), the safeties and mag release buttons are on both sides of the gun (my youngest is a lefty, so that will be good for him), they come in three styles (which will be nice, so I can get the same gun for each kid, but they will all look a little different), and they are reasonably priced.

    I have shot the SR9 at a range, and I think it would be a good first gun, as it doesn't kick like a .45 and the kids can work on thier accuracy, etc.

    So I was just wondering if anyone on here has an SR9 and can give me some advice, or advice on another 9 mm that might be a good first gun for my kids (and reasonably priced. I don't want to go over $500.00 a gun if I can help it).

    Thanks!!
     
  2. Matrix187

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    CZ 75 of some sort :D
     
  3. PcolaDawg

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    I have to be honest: I know nothing about CZ. :uhoh:
     
  4. Matrix187

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    The CZ 75 is used in over 12 countries by the military or police, and its alot like a browning hi power. It's DA/SA, and has a thumb safety. Carries ~15 rounds.
     
  5. PcolaDawg

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    Interesting. The minute you mentioned it, I fired up Google and took a quick look. It's definately in my price range and looks good.

    How reliable are they, and do they have good customer service in the US of A?

    And thanks. :)
     
  6. CZF

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    Beretta 92FS for your officer son.

    A Cz75 BD (decocker) would also be ideal.
     
  7. jfrey

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    SR9 thoughts

    I bought my son a SR9 and soon after realized they had a recall. Sent it in to be fitted with what ever recall measures Ruger deemed necessary. Got it back and took it out to shoot it. The very next day I traded it on a Browning HP. Any questions on what I think of a SR9? Get your kids a BHP or CZ.
     
  8. PcolaDawg

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    I read somewhere that officers in the U.S. Army - with some exceptions - train and carry the Barretta M9. So I looked at them closely, but I've never fired one at the range.

    For some reason, they didn't impress me as much as the Ruger, although I'd be hard pressed to say why, exactly. The Ruger is thinner and just felt better when I held it. A very subjective thing, I know.
     
  9. PcolaDawg

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    Interesting. I've read about the recall, and the SR9s I looked at have all been fitted with the 'Glock' style trigger safety, which is why they were recalled (no trigger safety, so it was possible for the gun to fire if dropped). What did you dislike about it after you got it back and shot it?
     
  10. Mike OTDP

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    Why 9mm? For a new shooter, .22LR makes a LOT more sense.
     
  11. Prepster

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    The SR9 isn't a bad choice. Maybe the Sigma series is one to consider also, $350/gun for basically a Glock, and there's the S+W rebate deal going on now too. With the extra you can get them a whole mountain of ammo, holsters, etc.
     
  12. PcolaDawg

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    Well, all three have shot my .38 J Frame Airweight revolver and my Kimber .45 Ultra Crimson Carry II and have no problem with the recoil, and have pretty good aim. None of my kids are small, and none of them are afraid to shoot a big gun. So I don't see the point in getting them a .22 pistol. Eventually, I expect this handgun to be their first home/apt. defense weapon as well. Especially for my 21 year old who is now old enough to get his CCW and lives and goes to school 14 hours away in Virginia Beach.

    I can see getting a .22 for plinking around real cheap, but to me that would be more of a toy and not a tool.

    Now, for my wife, when she's ready to start shooting, I will definitely need to start her out with a .22 LR handgun, or a handgun that can convert to a .22 while she gets comfortable with it.
     
  13. esq_stu

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    Several years ago, on the occasion of my son's 21st birthday, I bought my son, my father, and myself IMI Jericho 9mm pistols.
     
  14. benderx4

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    If it were my sons, unless it were a .22 or a revolver, I wouldn't touch a Ruger right now with a ten foot pole. Two serious recalls on their two newest weapons. First the SR9, and now the LCP. Granted, they've handled the issues very well, but why buy a potentially inferior product when there are such other fine weapons out there?

    First, I'll be upfront and say I'm an avid HK fan. Those fine weapons appear to be out of your price range. But based on your requirements, I would still like to recommend two outstanding weapons:

    1. Beretta M-9 (92FS) - Classic, full size, easy to shoot well, decent capacity and accuracy, nice trigger, incredibly smooth action, easy to field strip (with your eyes closed), and not terribly expensive.

    2. CZ 75B, CZ P-01, CZ SP-01 - All pretty much variations on a theme. These guns are amazing. I hadn't heard about them either until 2 years ago or so. Great accuracy and reliability. For an all steel gun, very inexpensive. Huge capacity on the SP-01 while no bigger than the M-9. Only thing is trigger is a bit gritty out of the box, but gets progressively better with use.

    There are some other guns out there that would fit your requirements, S&W M&P for instance, but the two above would be my choices. Won't go wrong with either one.

    Good luck and congrats on an amazing wife. Does she have a sister?
     
  15. PcolaDawg

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    lol. Yeah, my wife has two sisters. Both of them older, uglier, and more liberal than she is. :D

    Anyway, thanks for the info. I've looked into the Baretta M9 and the Smith & Wesson M&P, but not the CZ. And the more I hear about CZ the more intrigued I am by them. I'll have to check it out.

    Thanks again.
     
  16. Mp7

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    can you please adopt me?

    I´ll take anythin u choose :)


    From what i read on this forums the price of CZ
    and what u get for it are very towards getting those.

    i would.
     
  17. PcolaDawg

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    No. From here on out, if I want another kid, I'll adopt a rich one that comes with a hefty trust-fund that I can embezzle off of or something.

    Kids are too dang expensive, otherwise. :cuss:
     
  18. Rob G

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    The CZ is a very good firearm although I have only shot one a couple of times.

    The Beretta 92 was the gun used at the police academy I was at. I have no idea how many thousands of rounds I put through that gun while I was there but I'd guess 10k+. I found it to be accurate, smooth trigger, low recoil for quick follow ups, and very reliable with only 1 or 2 errors during all those thousands of rounds.

    But either one and you won't have gone wrong.
     
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    cant comment on the cz-ive heard good things, but never so much as held one-i think something about the name turned me off to them early on. i love the 1911 platform, so i have to give credit where it is due-thats what i would get if i were doing this anyways, and maybe buy one for yourself as well, all with sequential serial numbers maybe? just a thought, but back to (more) reality...if youre not going to do a 1911 i would say that you can not go wrong with the beretta and i would steer that way before anything else ('cept the 1911!) i would stay away from that sr9...ruger autos are having some hard times from what i can tell...if you (probably more a question of your wife) are comfortable with a pistol without a manual safety, glocks or M&Ps are tough to beat, but they do lack that little switch which makes a big difference to some...if i were going to get pistols for my kids though they would probably have manual safeties on them too though...good luck in this, 3 guys are gonna wake up to a very merry christmas morning! i wish my family were like this-i cant even acknowledge that i have guns to my extended family haha...anyways i would think about possibly putting a few extra bucks in...it really wont be that much, and get a couple of 1911s unless you are really dead set against .45-if you could find 4 with sequential numbers, you would have a real heirloom-type deal going on there and i would bet those guns would never leave their possession.
     
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    Get em all a stainless Springfield 1911 and have their names engraved int oteh side of it. Then theyhave something to always be proud of that is a very functional weapon and showpiece as well!
     
  21. 1911 guy

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    No guns under the Christmas tree.

    Definately get them the guns for Christmas, but not like you're thinking.

    They're all old enough to understand some things take planning, so help them plan the Christmas gifts. Decide how much you want to spend on handguns, divide by three, put that figure in a card and put it under the tree. They get to pick their own handgun. If under/at budget, you pay for it all. If over, they pick up the difference. It will make a nice Father-Sons day out, too. Go to the gunshop in the morning, go to lunch, find an indoor range in the afternoon. They'll have so much fun with guns and Dad, it'll remind you of when they were gradeschoolers.

    It is your money, so I wouldn't feel bad about setting "rules", must be viable SD caliber, must be concealable, etc. Whatever you decide.
     
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    Planning.. Yes!

    OK, I'll agree with another poster... Baretta 92FS for the infantry bound.

    For the others, talk with them about what they would like in a hand gun. Yes they're old enough to know the element of 'Gift' over surprise box under the Christmas tree. Whether they end up being 9mm or .22rimfire. Or... a convertible. A 1911 with a .22 top end that could be converted to .45acp down the road would be a great choice. A Ruger MKII or a Browning Buckmark for the kid that really is the best shot out of the four of you. Will any of them end up shooting in action sports competition? Get the gun that dominates the stock class. -That way, as brothers will most often shoot each other's guns, they all get a taste of what's available.

    Buying them all the same gun.. Boring... :barf::rolleyes:

    So.. What will you buying for yourself? And mama? She's the one with this great idea!

    -Steve
     
  23. gtmtnbiker98

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    Have you looked at the S&W M&P line?
     
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    All good recommendations and I have nothing to add other than your one cool dad.
     
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    I tried to improve on that and just couldn't.
     
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