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Mythbusters: Cutting down a tree with a machine gun!

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by nwilliams, Feb 14, 2008.

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  1. nwilliams

    nwilliams Member

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    Anyone else catch Mythbusters tonight! Minigun, M249 SAW, Thompson and looks like loads of fun. Its always great to see people (especially Californian's) having so much fun with automatic weapons. I also think its funny that they mention that they have to leave CA to even test the myth.

    BTW I just have to say, Kari taking down the tree with the minigun....just plain sexy:eek:
     
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  2. ColinthePilot

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    Its on my DVR. I'll have to watch it tomorrow.
    +1 for Kari with guns being really really hot.
     
  3. BridgeWalker

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    Ok, some of us don't have tv. Did they succeed? What sorta' tree? What gun? How much ammo did they burn in the attempt?

    And didn't they *just* do a show on shooting a circle out of the floor? This kinda' stunt can't be *that* different, can it?
     
  4. Regolith

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    Well, I've taken branches out of trees with a .22LR (and lots of shots). So I imagine a small to medium sized tree woudln't be a problem for a machine gun.
     
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    Hate to give away spoilers, but here you go....

    The seemed to only fire one drum mag with the Thompson on a tree that was quite large, obviously it didn't do squat.

    The M249 they put a lot more rounds on target and penetrated it but didn't cut it down.

    The Minigun....In a probably 30 seconds or so (I know they said it was under a minute) it caught fire and was chopped in half.

    I would say the trees were average mature tree size and I believe they were pines. Sorry I'm not good with the details I was too caught up eyeballing the guns and Kari so I wasn't really paying much attention to what they were saying or the narration.

    Maybe a clip from the episode will appear on youtube or something at some point and someone can post it.
     
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  6. Barr

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    The guns (Thompson submachine gun, M243 SAW, .30 Dillon Gatling Minigun) were used against 3 pine trees that had been cut down and then the trunk of the tree reinserted into the ground in the Arizona desert. The Thompson fired by Grant did not do much damage. The M243 with its .223 Remington bullets fired by Tori fully penetrated the tree trunk, but did not cut it down. Tori fired 3 belts through the SAW. The .30 Dillon fired by Kari did cut down the tree in about 45 seconds. The .30 Dillon was then fired by Tori into a mesquite fir tree that was reported to be 4 times as dense as the pine. The fir tree was cut down in 1:08 mins.
     
  7. Barr

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    I say try a similar test with a squad of three shooters with appropriate arms. Just for fun, a timed test to "test" the effective penetrative ability of a given caliber with firearm and sustained rate of fire.

    Something like:

    Pump/Semi-Auto 12 Gauge Shotgun w/slugs
    Lever Action 30-30 or 444 Marlin/44 Magnum
    M1/M1A Semi-Auto

    I say the M1/M1A would win. Just for fun of course. :neener:
     
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    didnt see this episode, so I dont know the detials of the myth they were testing, or thier findings, but I can say for a fact, that 2-4 people with aks,ar's, and sks's, can take down an average sized Washington State pine tree pretty easily and quickly.Be prepared to move quick though, they dont always fall with any warning, or where you expect them too.1 only missed me by about 2 feet.Still, a very, very fun way to get firewood.:D
     
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    A friend of mine was in the Army in 1984 and said they did that on the range one time with an M60. They weren't really trying it was just on their day there that tree finally gave up the ghost and fell over, so their DI had them shoot all the branches off then.
     
  11. Titan6

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    M243? No such animal.
     
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    That was pretty entertaining.

    The mini-gun would be fun but the 3000 rounds a minute (the empty shells were POURING out of it) and that they shot it for about 2 minutes (a minute per tree) would get expensive REAL fast. But if I wasn't paying for it...mowing down a 2 foot diameter tree (and setting it on FIRE in the process) is what I would call a good time :)
     
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    Its M249...
     
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    A similar thing has been the staple of black powder rendezvous around here for years. Posts , maybe 2x2, 2x5 or 4x4 set in the ground and teams of black powder shooters each go at their post until it hits the ground. Doesn't take as long as you might think.
     
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    On a similar note, a common (and fun) team event at a lot of competitive shoots is to shoot through a 4x4. Each team starts out with a clean 4x4, and first team through wins. Fun to see the .45's blowing large chunks out but reloading more, and the 9mm's gnawing away with larger mags.

    Edited to add: Man, oldgold beat me by less than a minute!
     
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    I *really* wanted to go to bed, but had to stick around for Kari buzzing the mesquite tree. :D

    That was one expensive chainsaw. Someone care to figger out how much it cost at today's ammo prices? 3000 rounds of whatever that minigun uses...

    Oh and the way they were using the Thompson so far away made me laugh.
     
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    That reminds me of this picture; when Maxim was trying to sell his MG to China, he invited the Chinese ambassador to a demonstration where he cut down a tree in a London park with a machine gun, and the response he got was "there are cheaper ways of cutting down trees".

    [​IMG]
     
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    cost of ammo

    For the tree that took 1:08...if ammo was 50 cents a round, which isnt uncommon, $1700
     
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    The tax payers probably paid for it. I figure the mini gun belongs to a gov contract security firm. They probably said burn as much ammo as you want, we have plenty.
     
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    That stump was the first thing which came to mind when I started reading this thread. I've seen the stump in the Smithsonian.
    Sounds like the boys & girls just wanted to play with machine guns again...since this one really wasn't even a myth. I'd say a 22" Oak stump in the Smithsonian was proof already that enough bullets will chop down a tree.
    And who here hasn't lined up with a couple friends to see how many .22 rounds it takes to "chop down that little bush over there"?
    Jack
     
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    Nope, they were at Dillon aero in the last minigun test that SUV with the custom roof was in there, I figure Jamie being an industry guy knows the owner.
     
  22. Wedge

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    We cut down a small sappling with a Marlin 60 once, that was fun.

    I wonder how much it costs Dillon to reload for the minigun? Considering they will have all the equipment and Dillon loves shooting the miniguns it probably doesn't cost "that" much (maybe 10 cents a shot which is still $300/min). Plus it is free publicity for the company...you know they like having pretty women hanging over their guns too.
     
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    A friend and I cut down a 4" oak. It took three shots. He shot it first with a .50 muzzle loader, and then I shot it twice with a 45/70. Big slow bullets work better for cutting trees down than small fast ones, IMHO.
     
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    Unfortunately, I didn't get to see that episode, but I wanted to. The power was out:(
     
  25. jackstinson

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    Since they run MythBusters marathons all the time, you'll have plenty of future chances to see that one.
    Three of my favorite episodes are: 1) Shooting into water for penetration with all sorts of firearms from handguns up through a .50 BMG .... 2) shooting the rope through to save a hanging Buster .... and (3) the "Confederate rocket". Well, I must admit that blowing up the cement truck was a really good segment also! Oh yeah, and machine-gunning the car was fun to watch.
    Aw hell, any episode which involves blowing something up or shooting guns is usually good. I think that would be just about EVERY episode :)
    Jack
     
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