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Nagant Revolvers gone for good?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Dan Forrester, Mar 3, 2013.

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  1. Dan Forrester

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    Back a couple months ago (before Newtown) I applied for and received my C&R license. My immediate reason for acquiring the license was to purchase one of these Nagant Revolvers which were all over the place for $90 - $100 just 3 -4 months ago. Now it seems rare to find one for under $200 on Gunbroker.

    So are the days of $100 Nagant Revolvers simply over and I should just find someone who has one and pay up? Or do you long time C&R holders feel that there are still more of these coming?

    Thanks, Dan
     
  2. Carl N. Brown

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    Personally, I feel the prices have been artificially driven up by (a) panic buyers and by (b) speculators betting on some sort of military surplus import ban as happened with the 1968 Gun Control Act (the ban on military surplus import was later repealed).

    Personally, I would not be inclined to buy at inflated prices. Others may be more pessimistic, but I suspect when the rhetoric calms down, prices will return to previous levels adjusted for inflation. Other opinions will probably come along shortly. After all the days of cheap SKSs was waning before the panic set it. But there is no justification for Nagant revolver prices jumping as they did.
     
  3. ApacheCoTodd

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    Could be. Each in its turn has ceased to be available at "back in the day" prices; SKS, Tokarevs, CZs...

    Might be the drop in availability of the Nagants has intersected with the current buying frenzy - evidence being the artificial jump. I can't help but wonder if any of them will ever be as cheap as they were - availability not withstanding.

    I should think if it were solely an availability issue they'd still be around 120-150% of the "cheap" prices.
     
  4. hAkron

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    Keep checking AIM Surplus. They seem to come and go all the time for ~$99
     
  5. returningfire

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    The Mosin-Nagant rifles are drying up and it looks as if the Nagant Revolvers are also. People bought them up realizing our dummy- in- chief would likely ban all import of military surplus weapons. Remember who stopped the Garands and M1's from coming back from Korea? The Chinese recently dumped a bunch of their model 53 carbines on the market, but that won't last long as they wore most of them completely out. Even the Arasaka and Carcano are getting scarce.

    There are still some TT's out there, but CZ52's, nope, how about surplus 7.62x25? gone. I have never been one to cry wolf but it sure looks to me like the days of military surplus firearms and ammo are drawing to a close
     
  6. Kiln

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    There are a couple of unfortunate things that happen to $100 guns that drive up the prices.

    1. People buy and keep them. If it is cheap and good quality, people will hoard it. Mosin rifles and Nagant revolvers will only go up in price over the years just like every other suplus gun. The SKS used to be cheap, the AK used to be cheap, and various other surplus firearms as well that have increased dramatically in price. Even the Mosins, which everybody knew would always be worthless, have increased from $80 to $140 in the last few years.

    2. People turn in cheap antique weapons to gun buybacks. As unfortunate as it is there are hundreds of Mosins, Nagant revolvers, H&R revolvers, and various other guns destroyed each year at gun buybacks that are in perfectly functional condition. This often happens in blue states where the people genuinely think that it is better for their gun to be destroyed (even antiques) than to wind up "on the streets".
     
  7. Tolkachi Robotnik

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    Russia made plenty of both.

    I believe the numbers are 2.6 million Nagant 7.62X38R revolvers and 12.5 million bolt action Mosin-Nagant 7.62X54R rifles. There are still some of those around.

    They have not went up that much in price and they do work with little chance of failure of any kind. Give it a little time and don't get too excited. Things will eventually return to some kind of new normal.

    As long as everyone is price elastic to some extent, things will return to relative normal faster, and the scalpers will be a little worried about getting their money back.
     
  8. BemidjiDweller

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    SOG has some, $119.95 each.

    http://www.southernohiogun.com/

    They also have MN T53's for $99.

    Edit 3/6/13 @ 8:31pm:
    I don't know what happend, but both SOG and a local shop both are sold out of all their T53's. Have no idea how many SOG had, but the local shop here had 131ish this morning.
     
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  9. Dan Forrester

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    I don’t see them on SOG’s web sight; just some surplus Nagant ammo for sale. Do you have to call them up? Hope there not sold out already.

    Thanks, Dan
     
  10. BemidjiDweller

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    Hopefully it is a inventory error, they were there for a while.

    Edit: Oh and if you don't have a FFL of any type, then you can't buy from them or browse their inventory. They do accept C&Rs.

    Edit2: Looks like it was an inventory error, they are back up at $119.95.
     
  11. PabloJ

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    Check for availability of inexpensive ammo. If you can't find any of that these will likely be available at low prices again. If plenty of cheap ammo is available the prices will likely go and stay higher.
     
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    Without a dealer login you can't see firearms on SOG's site - only the stuff regular consumers can buy. Send them your C&R to get a login or just call them up about it.
     
  13. Dan Forrester

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    Hey thanks for the info on SOG. I just created an account and faxed my C&R. Cant wait to see what’s in their inventory.

    Dan
     
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    Another option for non C&R holders, like me, is Cabela's. I noticed my local store had them in and out of stock over the last year. Yesterday, they were in again. I snagged a 1931 Tula, with a decent holster, for $149. Either the re-arsenal job was great, or that gun had never been fired before. Holster looked unused too. It had a few creases from storage, but the leather thongs had never gone over the clasps.

    At that price, without shipping and transfer fees, I consider it a wash with $99 online guns.
     
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    Having a C&R on file with SOG is a bad thing for your finances.
     
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    I couldn't see the appeal of those things when they were $79, they look less appealing now. :confused:
     
  17. Dan Forrester

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    Just bought a Nagant Revolver from SOG’s web sight for $120 + $5 for the hand select option. I requested a pre 1940 sample figuring WWII samples would have worse quality control. Not sure if they honor requests like that but they had a box for additional comments about my order.

    I also picked up a Polish P64 while I was at it!

    There was no charge for shipping which was nice.

    Thanks for all the help guys! I really needed to put this C&R license to good use. I really appreciate everyone’s help and especially the suggestions to check out SOG.

    Dan
     
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    You may find SOG will charge you a shipping charge. They never quote shipping in advance but will tack it on once they calculate what the actual charge is...I haven't found it to ever be unreasonable though. Just be aware that you'll probably find it in the final charges when they ship.
     
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    I just snagged one at LGS w/ holster, cleaning rod, screwdriver handle (but no bit), 3x50 round boxes of PRVI 7.62x38 and a type 53 Chinese Nagant for 375. The pistol was a '32 Tula and gorgeous, looked unfired condition (as was the holster) and did great after cleaning for the three cylinders I fired.

    The M'44 (aka Chi-Com Type 53) is pretty dinged around in the furniture dept; haven't fired it yet but have looked closely and it looks OK (to my fairly experienced but never officially untrained eye) to do so. Haven't tried to test chamber either spent case or live round yet either so I withhold any further comment on it... YMMV
     
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    Now I need to prowl for dies and load data for 7.62x38R. Anyone have suggestions? It is fun to shoot and I just kind of like the oddball nature of a 7 shooter....
     
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    For anyone else perusing this thread with interest and in Florida, there was one two days ago (03/11) at the Gander Mountain south of me, in Palm Beach County. It was marked at $159.
     
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    SOG and AIM Surplus are both in Ohio, so when I order from either they charge sales tax, but they are both great companies.
     
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