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Name that Gun! Honduran edition.

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Badger Arms, Feb 23, 2007.

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  1. Badger Arms

    Badger Arms Member

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    Flew into Honduras and noticed some soldiers mulling around. Waited until they turned away and snapped a picture of the gun they were carrying. At 50 yards, I couldn't identify it. Yeah, the picture sucks and the whole gun isn't showing, but somebody out there has got to have an idea. Hope somebody can help me out:

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  2. iamkris

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    I believe that Honduras uses the M16...which that obviously isn't.

    FNC?
    Galil?
     
  3. Cosmoline

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    To my eye it looks like a Saiga or other AK variant.
     
  4. EricTheBarbarian

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    i dont even see a gun in the picture
     
  5. jonnyc

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    I believe either Honduras or Guatemala use Galils, possibly in 7.62 NATO. Tough to tell from the pic, but that barrel has a vague Galil-ish look to it.
     
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    it looks kinda like either a Daewoo or a Beretta AR70.

    Just my .02,
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    I vote Galil
     
  9. Jeff White

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    I did a Deployment for Training with a Honduran unit in 1990. They had the most worn M16A1s I've ever seen back then.

    Jeff
     
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    I'd have to guess along with the Galil camp on this one, although LeonCarr's guesses of the Daewoo and AR70 are very good calls also.
     
  11. SDC

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    The Galil looks like the proportions are a little off for the length of the gas tube; I think the Daewoo K2 is a little closer.

    Galil:
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    Daewoo:
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  12. El Tejon

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    Galil or Azania's copy of the Galil is my guess.
     
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    Grip more looks rounded like the Daewoo.
     
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    Based on the examples of what SDC showed, I'd have to go with Daewoo
     
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    My vote goes with the AR70, or maybe....i dunno, a Stoner M63? The gas tube looks canted forward, maybe an AK of some sort?
     
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    Looks like a Daewoo. Cheaper than Galil, lets them use M16 magazines.
     
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    Honduras was one of Israel's first arms customers starting in 1975. Among the small arms purchased were Galil's and Uzi's, so my guess would be a Galil.
     
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    I was 16 when I left Honduras, but from what I remember, I mostly saw M-16s, but there were a significant portion of this other mystery rifle, which at the time I just called Galils, but I'm not sure that was correct now. They were definatly not Daewoos, they had the Galil style forend, and skeleton stocks. Looking at the first picture though, the forend does look more like the Daewoo one, I just don't ever remember seeing any Daewoos while I was there.

    I also remember seeing a good number of FALs, and the occasional AK.

    off topic:
    Does anyone know what the current gun control condition is there? I remember having civilian friends who's parents owned AKs and my Church's night watchman alternated between carrying an Uzi and an AK, but around the time I was leaving Pineda Ponce was running for president and he was making a big deal about how if he were elected he would do away with guns.

    Edit to add: After reading Selector67's post, I guess I was right about them being Galils.
     
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    When I was in Honduras in '86 all I saw was worn out M-16's.
     
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    I am almost certain that is a Galil. I magnified the image and it is obvious the gun is canted, with the bottom of fore-end facing the camera. The bottom of the fore-end is in shadow, and that makes it look smaller and more rounded.

    Attached is a version where I have isolated the rifle, and you can see the fore-end better.
     

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    Daewoo? Saiga? WTH?

    Does anyone have any info that any Central American nation has made purchases from these companies?:confused:

    The Israelis do a lot to gun selling in Central and South America, but Daewoo and Saiga???:scrutiny:
     
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    What's in the truck? Looks like soft padded rifle cases to me.
     
  23. Badger Arms

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    Back from a weekend trip. What's in the truck? I know, but I can't tell you. :)

    Looked through every gun I could find on the net, remtek, Max Popenker's site, etc. The closest one I could find was the Galil, but I have to say that it looks like a round handguard. I also thought it might be a DS Arms free-float handguard on a Galil, but that was just a thought. It's not the DS Arms. Still not sure it's a Galil, though, as the Galil handguard is closer to the gas block. Since it doesn't fit the Galil pattern, I'm still going to wonder.
     
  24. jonnyc

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    Make sure you are looking at the 7.62 version of the Galil, not 5.56.
     
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