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Nationwide CCW for LEO- What happened?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by fjolnirsson, Jul 6, 2004.

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  1. fjolnirsson

    fjolnirsson Member

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    Did this get shot down? Is it still waiting for a vote? I'm just curious, as I don't recall hearing about it lately. Myself, I'm of two opinions on it.
     
  2. Pilgrim

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    The House of Representatives passed their version. The Senate has its own version, but it has not been to the Senate floor for a vote. It is expected that senator diane will try to attach her AWB renewal to the Senate version.

    Since there are two versions of the bill, the differences will have to be reconciled in a House-Senate conference committee. Once that is done, both bodies of the Congress will have to vote on and pass the compromise version.

    Pilgrim
     
  3. StopTheGrays

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    That seems like a smart tactic on her part. You get the LEOs behind you by throwing them the bone of National CCW for them and ask for their support on the AWB renewal.
     
  4. Leatherneck

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    Nobody's ever said she's stupid--just evil. :neener:
    My bet is that the whole thing will go down in flames--too contentious to get passed in the few days remaining.

    TC
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  5. halvey

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    Or she knows AWB won't pass, so stick the LEO CCW on this so that won't pass either.
     
  6. ProGlock

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    Hopefully this bill will die in flames. Until their is national reciprocity enacted for ALL citizens and not just LEOs, sorry but I don't support any bill that makes LEOs a higher class of citizen.
     
  7. lostone1413

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    I don't back the bill either. Who could that supports the 2nd amendment back the bill. Their union backs Kerry who want to disarm us. To me a carry only for LEO is a very good start on a police state.
     
  8. Harve Curry

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    I 2nd what Lostone wrote. Down with the whole shebang
     
  9. Thumper

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    Wrong. AWB addition is a poison pill. Please see the lawsuit immunity bill.
     
  10. greyhound

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    How many weeks left in the Senate session?

    1? 2?

    Can't go by fast enough for me.

    I'm hoping the big battle was won on March 2nd...
     
  11. Standing Wolf

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    It's a bad law. It needs to be stopped.
     
  12. LAR-15

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    It's not on the senate radar.
     
  13. FedDC

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    It will pass shortly and without the AWB;) I am waiting not so patiently. Its about time;)
     
  14. lostone1413

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    I'll say one thing if it does pass it is a very good start on a police state! Their has never been a goverment were they have taken away the publics right to have arms were people in the goverment haven't got to keep theirs. If it goes through and GWB signs it this is one vote he won't get. I bet it will cost him way more votes then he will gain
     
  15. Pilgrim

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    It seems to me a "I supported national LEO CCW" bumper sticker on your car or truck might be a nice thing to have when you get stopped.

    Pilgrim
     
  16. lostone1413

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    Somehow I just don't think LEO is any better then 95% of the Americans out their. It should be everyone or no one. Funny how someone could back this bill that is a Non LEO and their union back Kerry who wants to take your guns away.No one can tell me it isn't a good start on a police state.I remember reading in other fourms the far right saying remember Ruby Ridge and Watco. I use to think they were way off base. Can't say I look at it that way anymore
     
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    they passed it by UC

    Unamious consent, read it 3rd time and passed it out at about 7pm last night.

    :banghead:

    no record vote either that really fried me.

    I'm called my misreptiles and asking why they don't pass citizen friendly laws the same way.

    not really expecting any usefull answer.

    :barf:
     
  18. FedDC

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    Heck Yeah! And they say the Gov never does any good;) Now I need to figure out what pistol I am going to carry off duty... Finally I can ditch my full sized duty weapon when I am off duty. This may help out a LOT when it comes to getting officers to carry off duty, since it is a PITA to conceal a full sized gun off duty. Life is good once again...now if Sept would just hurry up;)
     
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    It was a long time comming, and well worth the wait. I think this paves the way for a natl carry or natl reciprocity.
     
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    I think I fall in with a lot of the others here on the forum about this.

    I think Police Officers should be able to carry anywhere they want off-duty, out of state, National Parks, State Parks, wherever. The more the merrier. I think they should even be able to carry on planes.

    However, I think that passing this law without passing a "civilian" version is very, very wrong.

    I usually side with the cops, but not on this issue. What makes them better than us?

    I.G.B.
     
  21. lostone1413

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    I just talked to Senator McCain and Senator Kyl office. I told them that it just makes a special class of person now. One thing I learned from both office is the bill is now coming up again were you can't sue the gun manufacture it the gun is used in a crime but this time it has the AWB as an amendmend. My money says the many supporters of the 2nd amendment have been sold out for the sake of the few
     
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    Did you follow the festivities the LAST time it came up with the AWB added as an amendment?
     
  23. Wakal

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    :rolleyes:

    What was that quote? Guns are supposed to be conforting, not comfortable...

    Yep, that was it.

    And for the record, I'm in the "LEO are citizens, not a protected class" crowd. Leave your jurisdiction, take off the badge and go back to being the same as everyone else. Recognize all CHL...or none. Half measures are only half right ;)


    AlexIcarryfullsizedgunsandIlikeitWakal
     
  24. lostone1413

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    Didn't follow the show the last time but will bet it will fly this time. When all is done the few will benefit at the cost of the many who support the 2nd
     
  25. SnakeEater

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    I'm also strongly against this bill. LEO's should follow the same rules as everyone else. This fad of LEO's thinking they are a seperate and privileged class has got to stop. I can barely contain the anger it causes me when I'm refered to as a "civilian". Hey people, we are all "civilians", LEO's included. The law enforcement community should be trying its best to clarify that they are equal, not better, than everyone else. I fear we are slowly being divided into a police state, only in this police state the police will be the ones on the run.

    Ok, I feel better now. Been wanting to get that off of my chest for awhile now. LEO's, I'm not trying to bash you personally, I am mainly refering to the overall community attitude.
     
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