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NC Restaurant Carry - Action required

Discussion in 'Activism' started by Gouranga, Mar 9, 2011.

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  1. Gouranga

    Gouranga Member

    Jan 30, 2010
    Gaston County, NC
    Time to step up and make noise NC residents:

    HB 111 - Parks & Restaurants

    The long awaited bill permitting carry in restaurants and parks are now in Subcommittee A of the House Judiciary Committee and is on the calendar for tomorrow, Wednesday. Contact the members listed below and tell them to support HB 111, Handgun Permit Valid in Parks & Restaurants.

    Let them know that this good bill will not change anything in the law regarding permit-holders consuming alcohol or in the ABILITY of restaurants to post against firearms if they so choose. You should also remind them that in 16 years of concealed carry that carry holders have proven to be sane, sober and law-abiding.


    CALL these 3 swing voter members: Chuck McGrady - 919-733-5956, Bill Faison - 919-715-3019, James W. Crawford, Jr. - 919-733-5824
    Contact the members of House Judiciary Subcommittee A and deliver this message or one of your own:
    (Copy and paste list)

    John.Blust@ncleg.net, Martha.Alexander@ncleg.net, Hugh.Blackwell@ncleg.net, Jim.Crawford@ncleg.net, Leo.Daughtry@ncleg.net, Bill.Faison@ncleg.net, Larry.Hall@ncleg.net, Julia.Howard@ncleg.net, Darren.Jackson@ncleg.net, Ric.Killian@ncleg.net, Chuck.McGrady@ncleg.net, Grey.Mills@ncleg.net, Shirley.Randleman@ncleg.net, Deborah.Ross@ncleg.net

    Deliver This Message

    Dear Rep.:

    I urge you to place your support behind, HB 111, Handgun Permit Valid in Parks & Restaurants. This long-overdue bill will allow lawful citizens to protect themselves from criminals.

    Restaurants will still retain the right to post their establishments against firearms if they so choose. Concealed handgun permit-holders will still not be allowed to consume alcohol while carrying. In the 16 years of our concealed handgun permit system, permit holders have proven themselves to be sane, sober and law-abiding. Permit revocations have been only tenths of one percent.

    I will be following the progress of this bill through Grass Roots North Carolina alerts.


    A Concerned North Carolina Voter

    Full Contact Info

    John M. Blust
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 1229
    Raleigh, NC 27601-1096 Martha B. Alexander
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 1213
    Raleigh, NC 27601-1096
    Hugh Blackwell
    300 N. Salisbury Street,
    Room 541
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925 James W. Crawford, Jr.
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 1321
    Raleigh, NC 27601-1096
    N. Leo Daughtry
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 2207
    Raleigh, NC 27601-1096 Bill Faison
    300 N. Salisbury Street,
    Room 405
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
    Larry D. Hall
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 1015 Raleigh, NC 27601-1096 Julia C. Howard
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 1106
    Raleigh, NC 27601-1096
    Darren G. Jackson
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 1019
    Raleigh, NC 27601-1096 Ric Killian
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 2219
    Raleigh, NC 27601-1096
    Chuck McGrady
    300 N. Salisbury Street,
    Room 418A
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925 Grey Mills
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 2221
    Raleigh, NC 27601-1096
    Shirley B. Randleman
    300 N. Salisbury Street,
    Room 531
    Raleigh, NC 27603-5925 Deborah K. Ross
    16 W. Jones Street,
    Room 1023
    Raleigh, NC 27601-1096
  2. Gouranga

    Gouranga Member

    Jan 30, 2010
    Gaston County, NC
    NC Residents HB111 out of committee need your action

    Guys...we have updated info:

    GRNC Alert 3-9-11:

    Parks & Restaurants Bill Fights Way Out of Committee

    In a bruising battle fought by both legislators and GRNC’s Legislative Action Team, HB 111, “Handgun Permit Valid in Parks & Restaurants” fought its way out of the NC House Judiciary A Subcommittee and now heads for a floor vote as early as tomorrow. Both strengthening and weakening changes were made to the bill.


    Working with GRNC, bill sponsors Mark Hilton (R-Catawba, ****), Jeff Barnhart (R-Cabarrus, ****) and Fred Steen (R-Rowan, ****) produced an enhanced version of HB 111 which included concealed carry not only in municipal parks, but in state parks as well. The substitute was quickly adopted as the working vehicle for the bill.


    Anti-gun Reps. Deborah Ross (D-Wake, GRNC 0-star), Bill Faison (D-Durham, **), and Larry Hall (D-Durham, 0-star) tried to tie up the bill with repeated questioning and with contradictory and shifting amendments. Ross demanded that, in restaurants, servers ask diners ordering alcohol whether they are carrying firearms. In a confusing array of amendments to amendments, ultimately the committee passed an amendment to the bill under which restaurants MAY but are not REQUIRED to ask those ordering alcohol of their status. As noted below, GRNC will vociferously oppose even this weakened language on the House floor.

    An equally confusing series of amendments was offered by Faison, who tried to remove both municipal and state parks from the bill. After Hilton, Barnhart and Steen opposed Faison’s proposals, they ultimately failed in an 8-5 vote.

    In an effort to tie up the bill, Faison repeatedly dogged bill sponsors with questions about why permit-holders need to protect their families in restaurants, demanding unavailable crime statistics and complaining “Where’s the problem?” Hall painted fanciful pictures of shootouts between patrons in restaurants, and demanded exclusion of parks for the sake of “youth groups,” saying he didn’t want permit-holders “further endangering” kids.

    But leading the charge to subvert gun owners’ ability to protect themselves was Ross, who claimed support for her weakening amendment from the Restaurant Association (whose lobbyist then stood to oppose the Ross amendment), and whined that concealed carry is specifically exempted from the right to keep and bear arms enumerated in the North Carolina Constitution.


    HB 111 could head to the House floor as early as tomorrow, and almost certainly by next week. Immediate take the following actions:

    · E-MAIL ALL MEMBERS OF THE NC HOUSE: Use GRNC’s automated e-mail to send a customizable message by going to: [ADD URL] and delivering the message that members should not only pass HB 11, but should remove the Ross amendment.

    · CALL YOUR HOUSE REP: Tell he or she to support HB 111 with no further weakening amendments. You can identify your representative to the NC House by going to: [ADD URL]

    · SHUT DOWN ROSS, FAISON AND HALL: Deliver a clear message that you will not tolerate meddling with gun rights legislation by calling the offices of Reps. Ross (ADD PHONE NUMBER), Faison (ADD PHONE NUMBER) and Hall (ADD PHONE NUMBER) between the hours of 9:00 AM and 11:00 AM on Thursday, March 10. If you happen to miss that time period, call them whenever you can.


    Honorable Members of the NC House:

    For sixteen years, North Carolina concealed handgun permit-holders have proven themselves sane, sober and law-abiding. Their overwhelming responsibility is demonstrated by the fact that permit revocations run mere tenths of a single percent.

    Because the ability of lawful North Carolinians to protect themselves and their families in restaurants and parks is long overdue, I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO SUPPORT HOUSE BILL 111: “Concealed Handgun Permit Valid in Parks and Restaurants” by all means substantive and procedural, and to pass the bill WITHOUT WEAKENDING AMENDMENTS. Under the bill, restaurants would still be able to post against firearms, and nothing would change the current prohibition on permit-holders consuming alcohol while carrying firearms.

    I also expect you to support removing Representative Deborah Ross’ amendment which would require permit-holders to disclose whether they are carrying firearms to restaurant servers, patrons, and potentially criminals. Under the Ross amendment, if a permit-holder orders an alcoholic beverage for someone else – even though the permit holder consumes no alcohol – he or she could be required to make that tactically unsound and potentially dangerous disclosure. If not removed, the Ross amendment will eventually cost lives.

    I will monitor actions on HB 111 via Grass Roots North Carolina legislative alerts.
  3. cls12vg30

    cls12vg30 Member

    Aug 4, 2004
    Raleigh, North Carolina
    Message sent, I'll be keeping a close watch on this via GRNC.
  4. Packman

    Packman Member

    Nov 12, 2007
    Southwest Florida
    From an out of stater who greatly enjoys vacationing in NC, please get this passed! I'd really, really appreciate it. :)
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