thomis
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I have a Savage and will be selling it soon, so Savage is off my list. I'm looking for a stainless barrel and synthetic stock (not thumbhole), varmint/ heavy bbl. Who makes this rimfire rifle?
need a new rimfire rifle - stainless/ synthetic
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Ruger?
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fotheringill
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Your price range and purpose of the rifle are important to answer question appropriately. Please advise.
Averageman
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You could always sell the Savage and pick up a 10-22 and build your own rifle the way you like piece by piece.
I was in much the same position you are a number of years ago and started modifying a 10-22. Although its been through a lot of different configurations over the years it's now about perfect for me.
As it sits now it has a S.S. Bull barrel, a nice 3x9 Nikon zeroed at 100yds and a Burris red dot mounted low and to the left side of the barrel @ 9 o'clock zeroed at 25 yds. I's also got a nice little bipod and a Huge over molded stock.
It's probably overkill for what the 10-22 was originally designed to be, but it's a fun little gun for me.
Try it, it can be fun and a pretty cool little range, plinker, squirrel gun for you no matter how little or much you "improve' it.
I was in much the same position you are a number of years ago and started modifying a 10-22. Although its been through a lot of different configurations over the years it's now about perfect for me.
As it sits now it has a S.S. Bull barrel, a nice 3x9 Nikon zeroed at 100yds and a Burris red dot mounted low and to the left side of the barrel @ 9 o'clock zeroed at 25 yds. I's also got a nice little bipod and a Huge over molded stock.
It's probably overkill for what the 10-22 was originally designed to be, but it's a fun little gun for me.
Try it, it can be fun and a pretty cool little range, plinker, squirrel gun for you no matter how little or much you "improve' it.
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thomis
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Hoofan, don't know how I missed that on the Marlin website, thanks. I wonder if they are any good.
js8588
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Marlin = Remington. Not something I'd trust these days.
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I'd second a 10/22. they can be found in stainless/synthetic- or can be built that way with a myriad of aftermarket parts.
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Hard to go wrong with a CZ. With Ruger and Marlin you have to be aware of quality control. They both shoot well but quality control is spotty on all brands these days. The good news is they will fix any issues and unlike Savage they do not have a serious design flaws.
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I think in stainless and with a synthetic stock I would go the 10/22 route as well.
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Just out of curiosity what model savage do you have and what's wrong with it?
I have the blued version of that rifle and it works fine. Actually mine has a tube mag instead of the box mag but everything else is the same on them. It is not as accurate as my Savage but it's plenty accurate. It functions much better than the Savage too. I like the tube design because I can shoot shorts in it and it holds 25 of them.
And those who want to think that the Remlin stink applies to those Marlin rifles, they really should ask someone who owns one before guessing. Mine is perfect as far as fit, finish and function. It's one of the most solidly built .22's I've seen actually. The trigger is very nice but again my Savage is more accurate. In fact my Savage is the most accurate .22 I own although it is only slightly more accurate than my CZ. I did have to do some tweaking to get it to be consistent but it has put 4 bullets through the same hole at 50 yards. I had to go in the house and get another bullet to try to finish the perfect 5 shot group and of course I didn't even have the same brand of ammo available at the time. So I missed by a whopping .3". The 4 shot group measured out to be .07" CTC. Again it looks like one bullet hole. So I don't really understand the rush to sell the Savage. If this is the same Savage mentioned in another thread that wasn't feeding right and had a bad stock all I can say is that Savage sells terrible synthetic stocks for the MkII. But you'll find a lot of them are really good shooters with different stocks on them.
He talks about the Savage in another thread I believe. It's a MkII with the synthetic stock. The stock pushes again the barrel so it isn't free floating plus there are issues with it feeding well from the mags. That is a known design flaw with those rifles but they are such accurate rifles that most people who own them don't complain about it. The mags can be made to work pretty well anyway. But if I wanted to take a rifle hunting I'd take the Marlin before I'd take the Savage. It feeds more reliably and is plenty accurate for squirrel and rabbit hunting.
I have to say it again though. My Savage has been a very accurate rifle and is consistently so since I switched to a Boyd's thumbhole stock and pillar bedded it. I once shot a 2250 on an ARA target with that rifle which is something that's usually only accomplished by dedicated bench rest rifles.
That said I'm thinking of selling my Savage also. My CZ is almost as accurate and it doesn't have any feeding issues. Of course the CZ cost quite a bit more too. But I want to get an AR and I have too many .22's as it is and the Savage is a good candidate to get me a sizable portion of the price of a M&P 15 Sport, which I am currently saving to buy. Mainly I just don't need so many .22's. I've debated doing this for a long time now. I hate selling a rifle that shoots as well as this Savage but again the CZ is nearly equal to it anyway. I might make the CZ just as accurate if I put the time in it that I put into the Savage. And it's too hard to get enough .22 ammo to get back to the level I was at before the panic. I have plenty of ammo but I think about how hard it will be to replace it and I get sorta miserly.
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Bolt Action, Lever or Semi Auto? Tube or Magazine Fed?
There's always the Ruger American.
There's always the Ruger American.
I have both the Savage 93 (17HMR) and Ruger 10/22 and would recommend the Ruger hands-down. After a great day of plinking 1,000 rounds last week, the Savage bolt is broken and is being sent to the factory for repair/replacement. 
I have put 10x through the Ruger and have never had a problem.
I have put 10x through the Ruger and have never had a problem.That's the first time I've heard of that happening. My Savage needed some tweaks and the stock was junk but it isn't going to break easily. I've put at least 50,000 rounds through it and maybe a lot more than that. I was shooting about 3 bricks a week in the warm months for 2 years straight. That's over 6000 rounds a month. I spent $3500 just on .22 ammo one year with the bulk of it being CCI SV. I didn't shoot all that ammo through my Savage but most of it was. And not one part has broken on my rifle in all that time. They are not junk rifles.
Here's a sample of what my yard has looked like for the past few years. This is just the beginning actually. The rain washes the brass down the hill and it looks pretty much like this for 30 feet or more. I have more photos but one should do.
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I think it's bad luck and I'm the victim of a fluke. I really love the Savage 93...it has been flawless until now.That's the first time I've heard of that happening. My Savage needed some tweaks and the stock was junk but it isn't going to break easily. I've put at least 50,000 rounds through it and maybe a lot more than that. I was shooting about 3 bricks a week in the warm months for 2 years straight. That's over 6000 rounds a month. I spent $3500 just on .22 ammo one year with the bulk of it being CCI SV. I didn't shoot all that ammo through my Savage but most of it was. And not one part has broken on my rifle in all that time. They are not junk rifles.
Here's a sample of what my yard has looked like for the past few years. This is just the beginning actually. The rain washes the brass down the hill and it looks pretty much like this for 30 feet or more. I have more photos but one should do.
I have no intention of selling it; as a matter of fact, I'm itching to send it to customer service and get it back ASAP. It'll be missed.As a corollary to my bad luck story, my Benelli Nova Pump broke ON THE SAME DAY! Unbelievably bad luck... The action on the Benelli is stuck in the open position after cycling a snap cap (never going to do that again), so it's being sent to the factory on the same day as the Savage. It was a bad day for two of my favorite guns...
That sure proves that even great guns can fail at times. I guess I got your post wrong before. With the complaining about the MkII/93 rifles I thought maybe you were getting in on that. I was wrong I see. I don't think my Savage is a perfect rifle or even the best .22 I own but it's a very good rifle. It's setup for certain things though and that makes it not great at other things (like hunting). No big deal. That's why I have more than one .22.
No worries!
I'm not the type that drags other gun manufacturers through the mud. My oldest son shoots the 93 a lot and is really bummed about the bolt, so he's helping me box it up today. Hope to have it back ASAP!
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thomis
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It doesn't feed well and doesn't extract AT ALL. I have to carry a thin blade screwdriver with me when I carry it back to check my trap line. It plain simple just shouldn't be that way. I'm waiting on Savage to get back to me on where to go from here.
All rifle makers have problems at times. I had far worse problems with my CZ than I ever did with my Savage. I couldn't open or close the bolt at one point. I couldn't move it at all which meant I couldn't take the gun apart to fix the problem either. It took a while but I worked through it's problems just like I did with the Savage.
I certainly don't care if you sell your Savage or not. I'm just saying they aren't bad rifles. They have many good points. I wouldn't sell it too cheap if I were you. If you plan on doing that please give me first crack at it. I'm serious. I'd love to have a stainless model.
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Wow. That is surprising. I have the MK II SR - fluted bull threaded and that thing is a reliable tack driver. I would suggest taking a look at the Marlins. I have a few different Marlins and they are all accurate. I have a 980S and it's accurate. Not like the Savage, though. I guess the XT series replaced 'em.
Yes they did. They have a trigger very similar to the AccuTrigger Savage made famous. I have the successor to the 981 which shoots LT's. longs and shorts from a tube mag. It's a great design and well done for a very good price. I paid $180 for my XT but it wasn't stainless. It most certainly is a better functioning rifle than the Savage when it comes to feeding. The badly designed feed ramp system on the Savage will make it a problem for a long time. But the accuracy is much better on the Savage even though the Marlin is not a bad shooting gun. It's just that Savage makes a real tack driver just as you said.
It's all in what you want I guess.
Thomis;
The one gun that meets your criteria that I haven't seen mentioned is the Ruger 77/22. I know that at one time it was offered in stainless/synthetic, but don't know if it's in the current catalog.
CZ does not offer a stainless/synthetic gun at this time that I'm aware of, though they did in the relatively recent past. However, the company's switch from the 452 series to the 455 series has cut the number of variants considerably. I will say that my Savage .22 went out the door to allow a CZ to come in. I now have several CZ's and zero plans to buy another Savage.
The 10/22 option isn't a bad one either. You can build just about anything you want, and change it if you didn't like whatcha built the first time. It just cost money. But you do get to spend it at your own rate, well, depending on willpower of course. OTOH, I've seen guys literally build the 10/22 of their dreams and be perfectly happy doing so. Then they took all the old Ruger parts and put 'em back together into the gun they originally bought.
There was some chagrin expressed that evening, truth be told. And no, it wasn't me being chagrined. Though I believe I did supply the whiskey that cold windy winter evening.
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The one gun that meets your criteria that I haven't seen mentioned is the Ruger 77/22. I know that at one time it was offered in stainless/synthetic, but don't know if it's in the current catalog.
CZ does not offer a stainless/synthetic gun at this time that I'm aware of, though they did in the relatively recent past. However, the company's switch from the 452 series to the 455 series has cut the number of variants considerably. I will say that my Savage .22 went out the door to allow a CZ to come in. I now have several CZ's and zero plans to buy another Savage.
The 10/22 option isn't a bad one either. You can build just about anything you want, and change it if you didn't like whatcha built the first time. It just cost money. But you do get to spend it at your own rate, well, depending on willpower of course. OTOH, I've seen guys literally build the 10/22 of their dreams and be perfectly happy doing so. Then they took all the old Ruger parts and put 'em back together into the gun they originally bought.
There was some chagrin expressed that evening, truth be told. And no, it wasn't me being chagrined. Though I believe I did supply the whiskey that cold windy winter evening.
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