Need a strong & reliable 9mm; Ruger or Beretta?

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If strength and reliability are the deciding factors, the Ruger. But the Ruger P-series feel really uncomfortable in my hands. The Beretta gets the nod in ergonomics. Now if they would put the controls where they belong... :D
 
Ruger P-95 or P-95DC for only $307 at www.ImpactGuns.com with a $9.95 slip-on Hogue Grip.

Rugers are the Rodney Dangerfields of firearms; because they aren't fancy, they get no respect (by those not familiar with them). :D
 
The last post on this thread was, lessee....about 17 months ago, so no one will ever read this. Regardless, why isn't anyone mentioning the venerable Mak? It's got, like, 2 moving parts and is the handgun equivalent of the AK in ruggedness.
 
Quite honestly, of the two, I'd go for the Beretta...

BUT!!!..... I'd rather boycott Beretta at the moment because they're putting in plastic parts on their firearms. Yeah, most likely they're not gonna change, but I just cant help to think they really riuned a great firearm, and their company. Putting in cheaper parts and raising the price doesn't go well with me. IF you wanna go the Beretta route, find a used one. Support the local gunshops but not the company. And boy oh boy.... did they really ruin the INOX models. :(

Oh yeah.... SIG P226 :D
 
Having owned both Ruger and Beretta, I'd go with Beretta. Better looks, better workmanship.
I had seen a guy with P89 in range doing shotgun spray from 10 yards. I was doing the same with my KP95 :D
My 92FS is far more accurate, works 100% out of the box without extractor tuning or feed ramp polishing or magazine tweaking. :D
 
I'll only say I've never owned a Ruger semi, so I can't really answer the question from that perspective. I know Ruger's gp100 revolver is practically indestructible. So if they make their semis close to that well, I'd think it would be a good choice.
 
The accessory market for the Ruger centerfire handguns is a bit on the weak side, but they definitely fit my definition of strong.

The Berettas tend to cost a bit more, are a bit "slicker", have a little edge in accuracy, are easier to "buy for", but may not be quite as durable.

Reliability is a wash. Either will fit the bill in that department.

I don't think you'll be unhappy with either choice. Pick the one you like best.
 
gudel said:
Having owned both Ruger and Beretta, I'd go with Beretta. Better looks, better workmanship.
I had seen a guy with P89 in range doing shotgun spray from 10 yards. I was doing the same with my KP95 :D
My 92FS is far more accurate, works 100% out of the box without extractor tuning or feed ramp polishing or magazine tweaking. :D
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Some idiot spraying and praying is the fault of the gun?

Quite honestly, of the two, I'd go for the Ruger. I shoot my P85 in IDPA matches and have nothing, but praise for it. It' goes bang every time and shoots where I look. It is accurate and reliable to the extreme. I had a little pocket Beretta, wasn't the top of the line, just a little .22 short Jet Fire. But, how they ever let that POS out of the factory I'll never know. :rolleyes: It gave me a bad opinion of Beretta. I'll stick with what works, thanks. Besides, I like the way the Rugers work and feel.
 
Some idiot spraying and praying is the fault of the gun?
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Apparently there are more than just me and the other guy as the idiot. Includes the RO, the other guy's friend as well. :rolleyes:
There are some guns that just not as accurate as others. You know it as well as I do. Ruger is one of them.
 
IndianaDean said:
I'll only say I've never owned a Ruger semi, so I can't really answer the question from that perspective. I know Ruger's gp100 revolver is practically indestructible. So if they make their semis close to that well, I'd think it would be a good choice.
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That's the one thing NOBODY can deny. Rugers are built STRONG, sometimes to a fault. They really don't need that much bulk in the slide. But, they're fairly light for a duty size gun. The newer P95/97 and P345 are quite a bit slimmer than the bigger P guns. My P90 is UNREAL accurate, match grade right out of the box. My P85 is a little less so, but still accurate for a duty gun. Those guns may be a little bulky, but they're hell for stout! Won't be no slides crackin' one one, I can tell ya that!

I'd GUESS that the trigger on the Beretta is probably better. My P90 is pretty decent, but the P85 is a little stiff for my tastes in single action, probably breaks about 7-8 lbs. Doesn't slow me any, though. Of the two, the .45 is my favorite by a long shot. I had a P95 for a while, too, and it was accurate and reliable, but I never carried it, so I sold it. It wasn't much lighter than the P85 on my hip and wasn't much easier to hide, either. I sorta like the aluminum frame Rugers cause I love the Hogue finger groove grips made for 'em, but I had a Handall on that P95 and it was comfy enough to shoot.
 
gudel said:
Apparently there are more than just me and the other guy as the idiot. Includes the RO, the other guy's friend as well. :rolleyes:
There are some guns that just not as accurate as others. You know it as well as I do. Ruger is one of them.
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My P90 will group under 2" with most loads off sand bags at 25 yards. My P95 and my P85 will both shoot 2.5" with their better loads and I haven't fired a load that would shoot worse than 3" in either one. Couldn't quite get that sub 2" out of them, but hey, they're not bullseye guns, they're service guns. And, I don't call that "spray and pray". I can keep 'em in the 10 ring at 25 yards off hand firing deliberately and placing my shots. I've won a lot of matches with the P90 and shoot it qualifying. Always shoot 250 out of 250. I'm sure the Beretta is a good gun, but I don't think it'd be any better than my P90 for accuracy, 'cause I've shot a lot of guns and that one's a tack driver for an out of the box service gun. My p85 is only marginally less accurate if you pick your ammo and it's not inaccuate with about anything I've fired out of it.
 
There are some guns that just not as accurate as others. You know it as well as I do. Ruger is one of them.
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I've owned 4 or 5 Ruger centerfire autos. They're not the most accurate guns on the market in my personal experience, but "shotgun patterns at 10 yards" is a serious exaggeration.
 
Ruger P series are tough to beat. Take your choice of caliber - 9MM, .45 Auto, .40 S&W and action - DAO, Decocker only, or safety/decocker. Or alloy or polymer frame. They work well, and are close to half the price of a Beretta. 15 round factory magazines are reasonably priced. Get a Ruger first, then save some money and buy a Beretta.
 
Hey guys, give it up. The thread was started on July 13, 2004. If the guy hasn't decided by now, more posts won't help him. Oh, BTW, Ruger. poppy
 
poppy said:
Hey guys, give it up. The thread was started on July 13, 2004. If the guy hasn't decided by now, more posts won't help him. Oh, BTW, Ruger. poppy
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That's what happens when the eyes start goin....
 
I don't have any particular issues with the Beretta, and if thats what you ultimatly choose, more power to you, but by god, even the Ruger haters out there will agree that they are strong, strong, strong. The fact that you can pick one up for literally half the price of a Beretta might help too. If your more into the Beretta looks, but the price puts you off, consider a Taurus version. Only a few slight differences (to include a frame mounted safety, which I actually like better), and mine is my most accurate handgun outside of my MkII.
 
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