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Need advice buying CZ-75

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by kyron4, Dec 20, 2012.

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  1. kyron4

    kyron4 Member

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    Looking at getting a "modern" handgun and I really like the 9 mm CZ-75 they had a Big R. All black, with black plastic grips, fixed Trittium night sights, looked like it had a 4 1/2" barrel, and held 16 rds. Price was $529 and he didn't know if it came with two mags or one. Does anyone know ? Is $529 a fair price ? Are they good dependable pistols ? The guy said he liked them more than the Beretta 92f and Glock 17. Any info. or advice would be great. -Thanks
     
  2. stonecutter2

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    Most everything I've read about CZ-75's are that they're pretty nice. There are many fans of the CZ-75. I have a surplus CZ-82 (9mm Mak) and the trigger pull is the best of anything I've ever handled.

    Price is relative to the area it's being sold, etc. If you feel it's a fair price for what you want, go for it. You can check online prices, but keep in mind those are often cash prices (credit cards by incur an additional fee) and then you have to pay for a transfer. So try to figure the final cost of online vendors, and compare to the local price before ruling out buying locally.
     
  3. viking499

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    They are great pistols. Check to see if they are night sites or the factory sights, which are not night sights, but a more glow type sight.

    If factory new, it will come with 2 mags.
     
  4. beatledog7

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    The CZ is a great choice for a lot of people. Whether it's a great choice for you is up to you.

    Be aware that CZ-75s come in at least three different action configurations: DA/SA, DA/SA with decocker, and SA only. Make sure the one you're considering is suitable for your needs.
     
  5. Godsgunman

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    CZs are propably my favorite guns out there. Every bit as reliable and well made as anything else on the market. I do not personally own the 75 but I do have its little brother the 2075 Rami with 3" barrel which is my everyday carry. Dead on accurate, nice trigger, easy to handle recoil, night sights, couldn't be happier. CZs customer service is top notch and here in KC. I would say if you like it go for it :).
     
  6. kyron4

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    Will it shoot cheap WOLF steel cased ammo ?
     
  7. Godsgunman

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    I'm personally not a huge fan of steel cased ammo, I have put some Tula through mine and it fed fine but I've never shot Wolf. I usually just grab the WWB 100 count for my range shooting. Never had any feeding issues with any HPs either.
     
  8. rfwobbly

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    I own 3 CZ pistols and love them all. The 2 things that most new shooters always comment on is the excellent ergonomics (hand fit) and accuracy. They are renowned for their level of features, fit, and finish, often earning them the title "poor man's SIG". Prices for all models hover around $550.

    While there is a gun called the 'CZ 75', that exact same action has been designed into the midget CC line ("Rami"), LEO version ("CZ75B"), military version ("P-01"), competition versions (SP-01 [both in decocker and safety models] and "Shadow"), and plastic versions ("Phantom"). Also, most of these models are available in 9x19 Luger or 40S&W. Additionally, a larger frame version in 45ACP ("CZ97"). So when doing research on the "CZ75" you need to differentiate between the '75 action' and the model by the same name.

    I'd highly advise some time on the CZ web page. http://www.cz-usa.com/

    • Yes, all the CZ 9mm versions are rated to shoot 9x19 +P in brass, steel or aluminum cases. Since they are manufactured in the Czech Republic, I imaging all development is done with Russian steel cased ammo.

    Hope this helps!
     
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  9. hAkron

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    Are you opposed to ordering online and having it sent to an FFL to do the transfer? These guys always have great pricing on new CZ's

    http://www.damascusgunshop.com/shop/

    I think they also have free shipping.

    Around here, the best street price for a CZ 75B is $469 + Tax. Be careful with the night sights. Most CZ 75B's have painted glow in the dark sights and not legitimate night sights.

    CZ's in my opinion are amazing guns. I am more accurate with my CZ's and CZ clones than with any other gun.
     
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    Have you handled one? If you haven't, once you hold one you will realize how much you want one. The CZ75 fullsize handgun is one of the most naturally pointing and comfortable gun I have handled. It shoots equally well. It comes with 2 magazines. If you can get one, then get one. You will not regret it.
     
  12. hq

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    I also want to remind you about a slightly unusual CZ variation, the Jericho. I'm not sure what the current name is ("Baby Eagle", "Uzi Eagle", seen a few) but a few years ago, after a bit of research, I ended up with a semi-compact metal frame Jericho instead of CZ, Tanfoglio/EAA and others.

    The only real downside is that it looks a bit different as I like CZ looks, but fit and finish are great, it's more accurate than I am and a very viable alternative to anyone looking for a CZ. Not for everybody, though; the looks, childish names that try to make artificial associations with Desert Eagle and slight incompatibilities with CZ75 accessories may well be a deal breaker.
     
  13. Pilot

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    I've had the CZ-75B, and 75D PCR (lightweight, compact 9MM) with the excellent .22LR Kadet Kit conversion unit for many years, and they are among my favorite pistols. Accurate, reliable, well made, and a good value.
     
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    I got a brand new CZ75B a few days ago in a trade by trading my used XD-40. I had that XD for quite some time and don't miss it one bit now that I have my CZ. If it's a B or Pre-B CZ75 than it has just a safety allowing you to be able to carry it cocked and locked or hammer down. I carry mine hammer down. Not because I think it's unsafe but because I wanted to try something new since my last guns were all single action and I've come to like it better. I don't notice a difference in trigger pulls when firing fast. I've seen some people claim it's a "dangerous stunt" to try and decock one but with my thumb in the way, I don't see it. They are solid guns and I think this one is here to stay for good at my side. :)
     
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    CZ 75b ... Mine's accurate and reliable. It has never failed to shoot anything I loaded it with including all the Wolf ammo. The Kadet .22LR conversion is a very worth while addition, mine has better sights on it than the 9mm upper I have. The change over takes 15 seconds and this set up is a good way to transition new pistol shooter from rim fire to center fire.

    I like everything but the trigger. That being said I've had it about ten years and haven't sent it away to be massaged, so it can't be that bad.
     
  16. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    I will admit that mine did choke once when my fiancee was shooting it but the round it was feeding was heavily tarnished and had quite a bit of rust on it. The ammo I got in the trade was in varying condition but the only malfunction was on the worst round in the lot. Everything else that was mostly JHPs functioned perfectly.
     
  17. jmr40

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    CZ pistols are an almost 40 year old design that was never very popular. They have a small, but vocal cult like following. I've owned and shot several. I'm not part of the cult.

    They tend to be more accurate on average than many comparable guns. If you want a handgun for range and target use I think they are a good choice for the money. While not unreliable, there are better, more modern choices in about the same price range that would be a better choice if you want a gun for personal protection.
     
  18. Pilot

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    Actually the major elements of the design are over 100 years old, but so is the design of Glocks, Sigs, HK, XD's, M&P, Hi Power, etc. The Browning short recoil, tilting block design is in all of them, not just the CZ.

    The design is the single most popular semi-auto, handgun design in the world, and has been, and probably will be for a very long time.
     
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    As mentioned, the CZ 75, and variants, feel very good in the hand, but make sure all the controls are easy for you to operate.

    There is no pistol I want to like more, since they seem well built and are comfortable, but the major controls are just beyond the comfortable reach of my fingers.

    In double action mode, the reach to the trigger is very long. I can barely get the pad of my finger to the trigger.

    In single action mode, the reach to the thumb safety is at the outer reaches of my thumb and the pivot point and shape make deactivating the thumb safety difficult for me.

    I haven't handled a single action version with their flat trigger and larger shelf type thumb safeties, but they seem as if they would be better. The polymer "Phantom" model does seem to fit me better.
     
  20. Roadking Rider

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    I have three CZ's
    First I bought the 75b which only made me want to buy another CZ. Then I ran across a very nice CZ82 which has become one of my favorite pistols of all time. Then yesterday I walked into my favorite gun shop and went to the same used gun cabinet where I got the CZ82,and was more than suprised to see a slightly used 2011 CZ PO-1 for $399 with case and a extra 14 round mag. I just could not leave that GS without it for that price, especially not knowing how much longer the 14 round version will be available. Cz's are the only brand of gun that I own more then one. I own quite a few brands but the Cz's just seem to work for me. I've never had a problem with any of them and there all very nice shooting pistols. Not even the Cz 82 that was made over 30 years ago has ever had the slightest problem.
     
  21. BlindJustice

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    I have the standard CZ 75B in 9mm Luger/Parabellum. The CZ 75 came out in 1975 ( duh ) For the first years it was difficult to get a hold of. but
    with the fall of the Iron Curtain, they began to be imported in the early '90s.
    I think Springfield Armory made a copy prior to that called the P9. The "B"
    suffix, is the firing pin block added in mid '92.

    The Standard 75B has a frame mounted LH thumb safety soitcan be carried 'cocked & locked" like the SA only 1911. Manually dropping the hammer makes it Double Action fo the first shot, and Single Action for
    subsequent shots.

    My 75B came with two magazines ( CZ prices em at $48? each )
    the Mag. capacity for mine is 14 CZ specs it as 15 but perhaps
    they mean 14 + 1 in the chamber. At the range I usually just load
    10 rds into the mag. My carry load is the Double Tap 147 gr. +P @
    1,100 fps and 12 rds in the magazine.

    Uber reliable, accurate and easy to field strip. It fits my hand
    with the curved back of the grip.

    R-
     
  22. powder

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    Picked up a Compact from the classies here, great shooter...
     
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    I've had a 75bd for nine years. It survived the 'cut' many times. Well balanced, accurate, ergonomic.

    This year I had the opportunity to try a P01 again. The magazine now has a curved rubber pad which corrects a glaring flaw with the earlier versions. I liked it so much my 75 got sold to fund it.

    The 75 you saw should have two 16rd magazines. If you decide to get more just buy the MecGar mags. They have stronger springs for better feeding reliability.
     
  24. Walt Sherrill

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    Hooray! jmr40's back. For those of you new to THR or CZ threads, jmr40 takes pot shots at CZs frequently. He has tempered his comments, here, however -- they're not nearly as critical as in prior responses.

    It may be a 40-year old design, but the Glock, is just 6 years younger, and nobody calls the Glock obsolete. And then there's the stinky old 1911, which has been production for over 100 years, and more companies and custom builders build them today than back when... Just because it's old doesn't make it bad!

    As to popularity: for the first 15+ years of the CZ-75's existence -- until the the fall of the Communist Bloc in '91 -- exports from the Communist Block were embargoed in the West. It was very, very difficult for a Westerner to buy one. (You could get them in Canada and West Germany, and that was about it.) I like CZs. I've had a bunch of them. I like other guns, too.

    Cult following? At the rate their popularity is growing -- they are much more popular today than they were just a few years ago -- that cult may soon become a major denomination...
     
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    Extraction is not a strong point of the CZ-75 design. Mine doesn't even like aluminum cased Blazer ammo.

    http://www.czforum.com/index.php?topic=589.0

    Dear Sir,
    Thank you for using the CZ 75B pistol made by Ceska zbrojovka a.s., Uherský Brod.

    1. I can inform you that you can shoot steel case 9 mm cartridges, but from time to time there is some possibility of of failures. As the damaging of extractor is concerned I can let you know that we do not have with this any experience particularly regarding the CZ 75B pistol model.
    2. Using NATO cartridges of +P or +P+ type may not cause problems, but generally we do not recommend it as these cartridges generally reduce the service life of the barrel and of the whole pistol as such putting some higher stress on some parts.
    I am also pleased to inform you that our customers in the USA are cared and served by our subsidiary located there. All contacts and information is available at this company website at: www.cz-usa.com

    Yours faithfully,


    MILAN KUBELE
    MARKETING

    ČESKÁ ZBROJOVKA A.S.
    SVATOPLUKA ČECHA 1283
    688 27 UHERSKÝ BROD, CZECH REPUBLIC
    Fax : +420 572 633 811
    Mail : INFO@CZUB.CZ
    WWW.CZUB.CZ <http://www.czub.cz/> ​
     
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