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Need advice on scope for long-range

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by texas chase, Oct 22, 2008.

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  1. texas chase

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    I was just given a Savage 112 in 7mm Rem Mag and I'm looking to make this my "long-range" rifle. I will be shooting out to 6-800 yards and possibly 1000 later. I have a Choate "Super Sniper" stock but need a good scope. I've been doing a little research but am still fairly new to optics.

    Also, I was contemplating about putting a muzzle brake on it. Any suggestions or thoughts?
     
  2. taliv

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    hunting? f-class? plinking?
     
  3. texas chase

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    Target shooting mainly... I'd love to do some practical long-range shooting in the future and possibly F-class.
     
  4. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    What's the budget?
     
  5. Jim Watson

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    Higher power than you think you need, you will learn to hold it or to keep winding up a variable.
     
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    F-class dosen't allow muzzle brakes, IIRC. another choice is HORUS scopes. or just installing their reticals in another scope.
     
  7. texas chase

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    $350-400 price range

    No F-class then (no muzzle brake)

    Practical Long-range shooting

    How about specific scopes? magnification power? objective lens size?
    features?

    And how about muzzle brakes? Are there manufacturers out there that make them as aftermarket parts? Any recommendations? I'm assuming you need an experienced gunsmith to install...
     
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    $350-$400 will not buy you a scope with enough mechanical accuracy/repeatability to be of any value to you at the ranges you wish to shoot at.

    Save some more money.
     
  9. Jim Watson

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    Put the price of a muzzle brake into the scope budget.

    Put some lead in any recess or opening in the stock.
     
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    i would put a 5-15x50mm on it. oh, i did already on my .338, oops. mine is a US Optics SN-3. works pretty damn good. good luck
     
  11. texas chase

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    "$350-$400 will not buy you a scope with enough mechanical accuracy/repeatability to be of any value to you at the ranges you wish to shoot at.

    Save some more money."

    This is my price range. Period. Does any body else agree with the above?

    (BTW, Muzzle brake will come later.)
     
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    Thank you Mil Dot. Why do you make this suggestion?

    Anybody else?
     
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    How about a Millett 4-16x56mm? I've got one on my 22-250 and it's work fine so far. My friend has one on his .308 and used it in a 1000 yard match.
     
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    Well it depends. If you are willing to go fixed power you could get yourself into a used weaver t36 or new t24. You could also get a super sniper in 16x or 20x. There are a lot of options though and the more money you can spend the far better long range scope you can get.
     
  17. texas chase

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    Up the price range

    OK, I hate to do this because I hate when people on thr say "save up and spend more". However, I'm willing to play the game right now.

    Let's say I have a budget of $400 - what do you recommend and why?

    Now lets say I have a budget of $600 - what do you recommend and why?

    Please DO NOT recommend to save up and spend a little more. $600 is my absolute maximum. Please respect that and fire away your opinions...
     
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    Yes. To be a serious competitor, you need to triple you budget.

    I use a Nikon Monarch 6.5-20x 44mm (in your price range) on my .220 Swift to drill praire rats out to 600 yards (have made kills as far as 780 yards). But shooting rats for fun and shooting paper competitively are two different things.
     
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    I think a Bushnell 4200 or Nikon Monarch will be fine at the distances you're looking at. Won't satisfy an optic snob, but someday you may have more money. Just remember, to see the target, you'll need the fine reticule. The lines in most mildots are too big, they cover an F-Class target at 500.
     
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    I'm not looking to be a "serious competitor". I'm looking at getting into long-range shooting... hitting some steel out at the mentioned ranges and putting some decent groups together on paper.
     
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    Thank you skinewmexico. That's the kind of feedback I'm looking for.
     
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    Had I known you'd upped your max to $600, I also would have recommended a 4200 Elite, over the 3200. In fact that's what I was looking at before I saw thr prices were too high.
    To answer your earlier question, I recommend the Bushnell Elites becasue they're very good scopes for the money, Japanese manufactured, with an excellent lifetime warranty. I've purchased two, and really like them.
    The 4200's are VERY well spoken of, and have FULLY multi-coated lenses.
    Hard to beat a 4200 without spending a lot more money.
    http://www.swfa.com/pc-13202-185-bushnell-4-16x40-elite-4200-rifle-scope.aspx

    P.S. skinewmxico's right about the thin reticle, though I,and others considerably more qualified than me, like the mil-dot for long range shots, not to mention it's hold-over shot,and range-estimating value.
     
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    Bushnell Elite 4200 8x32x40 has been working for me with long range shooting. And its not to expensive!
     
  25. Jim Watson

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    Budget for a long range scope base with 20-30 MOA taper. Very few scopes have enough elevation to zero farther than 600 yards, maybe 800 yards for a very flat 7mm load.
     
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