Need full metal jacket .22lr

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El Barto

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I am looking to find a range close to where I live but the closest one wants me to buy their ammo. It is $1.40 for 40 rounds for .22lr. I have a brick off 500 I want to get rid of, but they said no outside ammo.

The reason is that they require full metal jacketed ammo so my ammo is not allowed because it has exposed lead.

Also, since it is a rimfire, I get the pleasure of paying an extra $6 lane fee.

Anyone else experience this kind of trouble when looking for a place to shoot?
 
That's just a way to make you cough up more money.
Find another range. Try this:

http://wheretoshoot.org/

You can search for ranges by state, area code, zipcode,
distance, or what types of shooting they cater to.
 
Hmmm, that wheretoshoot web site is not very accurate. But thanks for posting it, I did not know about it. It almost looks like someone made my listing out of spite it is so wrong.

Other than that it looks like one of the more comprehensive listings out there.
 
They are blowing smoke at you. AFAIK there ain't no such thing as FMJ .22lr. You can get .22mag FMJ; not the same thing obviously. Ask them to show their .22lrFMJ. I bet it's a plain old copper-washed lead bulet. I also suggest you find another range to spend your time and money. These people are too stupid to running a safe range AND they think you are just as stupid as they are.
 
find a new range, even if you have to drive an extra half hour trust me it is worth it to go to a great range.

their ammo price is rediculesly high, charging an extra fee for shooting a rimfire is laughable, and making you buy their house ammo is stupid.

Now they have the right to run their buisness the way they want so don't get into an argument with them. Just exorcise your right as the consumer and take your money somewhere else.
 
Thanks for the links on where to shoot. When I talked to this guy, I did get the feeling that he wasn't too knowlegeable. I have never seen a box of 40 .22lr, 50 yes, but not 40. I will go elsewhere.

I can understand that some ranges would want only ammo supplied by them for use in their guns, afterall who knows what experimental loads I would try in the rentals. But for them to insist that I buy their ammo to use in my guns? I guess they are trying to make a couple of extra pennies.
 
American eagle 22lr has 40 rounds per
box,400 to the brick.I'am sure it's
the only 22lr packed that way.
 
AmYisraelChai said:
Hmmm, that wheretoshoot web site is not very accurate...It almost looks like someone made my listing out of spite it is so wrong.
:confused: I don't understand what you mean. Care to elaborate?
 
Sure guys, not a problem. The listing on that site for the BulletHole is very inaccurate...almost silly. While I really dont think anyone did it out of spite...because it is not melicious, It was just part of the language I chose to use.

I can only assume much of the other information is problomatic as well. Other than that is seems like it has the makings for a good site.
 
Actually there is such a thing as .22LR full metal jacket ammunition.
It is used by the US Military in suppressed handguns and survival weapons so they may meet the requirements of the Hague convention stipulations.

I think El Barto is confusing copper coated high speed cartridges for full metal jacket ammunition and his stuff is actually plain lead standard velocity or high speed promo stuff.
 
The US never signed the Hague Accord, right?
I can understand following the rules just because we're the good guys, but still...

Besides, since when do black ops people follow conventional rules of warfare? :neener:

Oh, and aren't the Remington Golden Bullets copper washed? As well as the Federal bulk pack? I've not seen any real FMJ .22LR for sale at any store.
 
A black ops does not a survival situation make.
Suppressed .22 handguns are classified as survival firearms as are the .22 LR rifles stored on some Military aircraft and Navy lifeboats.
 
So said Darth Ruger: "Okay... well, that sure cleared things up! Thanks for that!"

This website was posted:
http://wheretoshoot.org/

I went to that website to check out the listing for my range. I found it, it was very inaccurate...almost comical. I can not imagine where they got some of that information. As a Joke, I thought someone could have put up The Bullet Hole's information out of spite it was so wrong.

It could be a good site, but I would assume someof the other information is not right as well.

that is all.
 
These guys may be trying to keep airborne lead down to keep from overtaxing their ventilation/filtration system.

The problem is that in their ignorance they don't understand that .22lr doesn't come "jacketed" (unless someone can come up with a specific citable example of jacketed .22lr) like other ammunition. Ask them is the reason is because they're trying to keep airborne lead levels down. If they say, "Um, well yeah. Yeah! That's it!", tell them you sure appreciate that, but someone's told them a big fib and that .22 doesn't come jacketed and copper wash doesn't reduce airborne lead like jacketing does. If that doesn't give them some pause, don't shoot there.
 
It could be a good site, but I would assume someof the other information is not right as well.

It's been my experience that there are a metric truckload of directory websites out there that list businesses, and most of the businesses listed probably have no idea that there's an entry for them.

Try contacting them with updated information, they'll probably be happy to hear from you. Takes ten minutes, and might end up driving new customers your way.

:)
 
He shouldn't have to tell them that .22LR isn't jacketed in the first place. That alone would make me do an about face and drive away.

Then again, he could really capitalize on their ignorance and tell them his ammo is not only jacketed, but it's also the new ballistic tip, boat tail, bonded core bullet designed for 1,000 yard squirrel hunting. :D They'd probably believe it, too.

AmYisraelChai said:
I went to that website to check out the listing for my range. I found it, it was very inaccurate...almost comical. I can not imagine where they got some of that information. As a Joke, I thought someone could have put up The Bullet Hole's information out of spite it was so wrong.
We're still getting nowhere. Exactly what is it about your listing that's so comical?
 
I think that the range is trying to minimize lead getting in the air. From their website:

"No steel jacket, brass jacket, semi jacketed soft or hollow point bullets allowed. They tend to come back and may hit yourself or other persons."

I called to doublecheck what outside guns/ammo they allow and that is when the fellow that answered the phone said "full metal jacket ammo only". I'd rather go someplace else than have to buy other ammo or try to argue with them.
 
There ARE examples of FMJ 22 LRs (made for survival use in some of the 22s made for military "bail out" guns), but they were made in such limited quantities that to require them for use on a range is LUDICROUS; what sort of 22 LR ammo does this range sell for use on their range? My first instinct is that they're simply twisting the knife a little to get you to pay for THEIR overpriced ammo.
 
SDC,

They must have alot for sale there. I just called again and spoke to a different person. I asked if all ammo had to be full metal jacketed and she said yes. I said "but most .22lr is not FMJ". Her reply was "yes it is".

I've never been there, but I might stop off tomorrow to see exactly what they consider FMJ.
 
Are they aware that many FMJ bullets have an exposed lead base?


"No steel jacket, brass jacket, semi jacketed soft or hollow point bullets allowed. They tend to come back and may hit yourself or other persons."
I said "but most .22lr is not FMJ". Her reply was "yes it is".
They absolutely, positively, don't know what they're talking about.



...I might stop off tomorrow to see exactly what they consider FMJ.
Don't waste your time.



I think the range is trying to minimize lead getting in the air.
I think they're trying to minimize the money left in your pocket.


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