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Need help identifying brass frame revolver.

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by Skinny 1950, Apr 18, 2012.

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  1. Skinny 1950

    Skinny 1950 Member

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    I just got this revolver in the mail..the seller said it was in shooting condition but the hand spring is broken so the cylinder doesn't advance when the hammer is cocked. I don't know who made this gun as there is no makers markings...I need to know who made it in order to buy a new hand and spring for it. Any input appreciated.
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    red ''X'', for me....
     
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    Look under the rammer on the barrel for a manfacturer's mark. It looks like a Uberti, ASP, or an ASM from the grip shape. It was made in 1965. The barrel is mis marked as it is an 1851 navy not an 1861 which has a round barrel like the 1860 Army.
     
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    I don't even know if it IS a Navy. The Navy revolver had a Navy scene engraved on the cylinder. This gun does not have it. Of course the former owner could have replaced it, but that's something I've noticed guys.

    My 2 pennies....
     
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    There were so many "variations" of replica revolvers made, don't expect it to be authentic to any original.

    Based on what I remember of the ads of yore, brass framed pistols were typically labled "Confederate". So your pistol was probably sold as a "Confederate Navy Pistol".

    I don't know if the Confederate Navy had enough ships to even have standard issue arms.

    Obviously it is Italian.

    Looks very close to the Navy Arms “Gunnison” revolver I bought back in the 70’s, with the exception that the Griswold and Gunnison had a round barrel.

    Just looked on the Navy Arms page, can’t find a parts section. You should be able to find all the internal parts you need if you just look.
     
  8. Jim Watson

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    It is certainly Italian made, the proof marks are distinctive.
    It is certainly NOT a "New Navy Model 1861" or reproduction of same.

    As said there were a zillion Italian not-quite-reproductions of kind'a sort'a Colt Navy models by Uberti and other makers.

    If there is a maker's mark under the rammer, great.
    If not, I'd call VTI and ask them what to do.
    A Uberti hand and spring set is $17, a Pietta is $8.
    http://www.vtigunparts.com/store/shopcontent.asp?type=home
     
  9. Smokin'Joe

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    Remember, even if you purchase a hand for the correct gun it will still require hand fitting. I find it far easier to fabricate a spring from available materials. A modified ball-point pen spring is my favorite. These springs are easily available, durable and the lightened spring pressure gives the feeling of real quality.
     
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    It is the CALIBER (.36) that determines if the revolver is a Navy, not the scene rolled onto the cylinder!
     
  11. mykeal

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    That's not correct. junkman_01 has it right.
     
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