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Needing patent attourney recommendation

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by brigadier, Aug 11, 2008.

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  1. brigadier

    brigadier Member

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    I invented a unique and critical firearm accessory about 5 years ago but couldn't afford a patent nor am I good in economics (wheeling and dealing) but I finally found an investor who is a business owner and willing to help with the economics but we are still in need of a patent attorney. We want someone local who is knowledgeable and experienced in patents related to firearms. Local means the California central valley, preferably in the Sacramento area.
    Any recommendations?

    BTW.
    I bet that most of you guys will have this thing on your guns within 3 years of when it hits the market. It's pretty high-demand, conveniant and shouldn't be very expensive.
     
  2. XDShooter07

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    Can't help with the attorney but you have me intrigued. What don't I have on my guns now that I will within three years of it hitting the market because it's high-demand and convenient. Man, I guess I'll have to wait. Once you get the patent be sure and tell us what it is.
     
  3. Kharn

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    You might not be eligible to get a patent due to the length of time since you invented it and your attempts to find an investor. Ask around among friends & family for a lawyer, then ask the lawyer for a patent attorney's number.

    Kharn
     
  4. Sam

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    Check out the Martindale- Hubble directory
    http://www.martindale.com/

    There are 6 in Sacto but only 1 worth diddly squat.
    Have much money in hand

    Sam
     
  5. Jeff White

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    You might PM our own Henry Bowman.

    Jeff
     
  6. armedandsafe

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    www.palomarpatent.com

    Calif Tervo is an old friend of mine. One of his very first patents was for my son. All the reports I've heard about him are very good.

    Pops
     
  7. brigadier

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    As of a month ago, no one has attempted to patent it. I have told a few people what it does and most question how it's even possible. Even after demonstrating the function, my investor was confused at how it could work before I showed her how.
     
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    Is it something to be used on a handgun, a rifle, or a shotgun? Or all three?
     
  9. Soybomb

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    We shall call it ginger.... :D

    Seriously good luck ;)
     
  10. brigadier

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    Sorry. No details. You'll just have to be patient.
     
  11. brigadier

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    Too far away. I am in the Sacramento area. We need someone no further then maybe the bay area, but preferably Sacramento or Placer counties.
     
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    Whatever you decide to do, hurry! I came up with a great automotive brake system about 15 years ago that recharges a vehicle as you stop.

    I told everybody I knew, was told repeatedly to patent it, ignored the advice, and then saw it a couple of years ago in Motor Trend.

    Stupid stupid me. The damn thing was on a Porche.
     
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    I looked into a patent myself. I was told to start with a PPA, provisional patent application. It is a short term (1 year) patent that allows you to declare your ideas and commence the patent process, inexpensively, so you that you may spend the next year filling in details. My idea, I later discovered, was in use by the Jamaican Gov't, so I didn't move forward.

    If you have a cool idea, get moving now, and keep your yap shut, despite all of our interest in hearing what you have to say. :)
     
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    See your PM.
     
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    back in the 70's I came up with a great idea, to put tape on disposable diapers, originally they used diaper pins to hold them I used duct tape, I thought about patenting the idea but put it off as a not very important product, If only!
    contact Denny Elliott inventor of the eyeblind www.eyeblindllc.com he has always been willing to help others get their ideas into production and knows about selling firearms related products.
     
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    They use the same type of system on the toyota prius to recharge the batteries that power the electric motor.
     
  18. brigadier

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    No problem there. I have been trying very hard for the last 5 years to get some help as I just don't make enough money to afford this nor do I have the skills to market it.
    For that 5 years, I have either been getting my face laughed in or had people say "interesting" and then move on. One company verbally took interest but never sent me a signed copy of a non-discloser form when prompted, so I just gave up on them.
    I learned that a family friend was looking to promote a new idea and talked with her about it. She gave me a chance and now that I have earned credibility with her and now that she's seen it, she has become dedicated to help get this thing off the ground, something I never could have done on my own.
    I know what it is that I have and know it's value at minimum and I am not playing games with getting it patented and on the shelf.
     
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    Brown Martin Haller, and McClain. San Diego California. They did fantastic work on an LE product for me.
     
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    I've talked to this gent before, nice guy and not too far to Chico.
    It's a good excuse to visit the Sierra Nevada Brewery too!

    Bodnar, William Patent Attorney
    Phone: (530) 899-7092
     
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    I am currently going through the patent process and went for the provisional patent route. As others said getting a provisional patent allows you to secure a 1 year time frame to seek out investors/suppliers/whatever before you will need to pursue a non-provisional patent. Provisionals are great because they only cost a few hundred bucks, but it's important to note that regardless you will have to get a non-provisional within that 1 year time period. I went with a larger national firm (top 50 firm) and I'm looking at 10-15 grand and a 2+ year time frame until the patent will be secured.

    I can't speak for firearm related patents, but I'd fair that some kinds of products (such as firearm accessories) will be much easier to patent than other industries (in my case film equipment manufacturing).
     
  23. mr.72

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    You don't have to hire a patent attorney to prepare the application for you. You can prepare it yourself and then just pay the fee. Last time I checked it was only a few hundred dollars. However a patent attorney, or at least a good one (or patent agent) will help to make sure your patent is not easily violated without your being protected, and will also be very good at making it as broad as possible.

    Also IIRC (it's been a few years since I filed a patent) you have one year from the first public or documented disclosure of the idea to patent it. Sounds like you probably have violated this year. It won't matter for the initial patent but if you try and sue someone when they use your idea without your permission then they will certainly dig up some public disclosure or documentation that predates the patent application by more than a year and make your patent basically invalid.
     
  24. mr.72

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    FWIW daskro you are right, some patents are very easy to get, because they are in a field where there is little innovation, little money involved in such innovation, and little competition at the cutting edge. I would think firearms fit this description very well.

    Now try working for a network/internet equipment company and doing patents. I have had an application under dispute for 7 years now. Sheesh. There is big money to be made and lost on internet/network patents.
     
  25. Henry Bowman

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    I am a patent attorney and have experience in the firearms area. I'd be happy to talk to you and share information.
     
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