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Stovepipes are so rare, that if it looks like I can't wipe it, I treat it as a double feed. Lock, strip, rack, reload.

Turning the pistol and flipping it is a PITA behind cover. Get the stop watch out, a double feed clearance drill is not slower, unless that stove pipe rolls out really easy.

Often the stove pipe will fall out when the mag is stripped out. In that case skip the rack and just reload. Pretty fast.

I've seen shooters struggle for 10 seconds trying to hold the slide and shake out the case. Doublefeed drill is 4 seconds at the most. It's especially hard if you have to worry about the 180.
Most folks can’t even remember all the steps in the double feed clearance drill. And you can’t tell me that locking back the slide, dropping the mag, three hard racks, replacing the mag, and racking a final time to chamber a round isn’t slower than tap, turn, and rack. C’mon on.
 
With overhand the gun is supposed to be turned sideways to the body but so is the body supposed to be sideways to the downrange direction. Net result is the gun is still pointing downrange.

I'm talking about what people easily do, not what they are supposed to do.

But what you suggest is itself pretty close to trouble in my view. If the gun is in close to the body and parallel to it, it's very easy to get the muzzle pointing at/along the left forearm. I have seen this a bunch.
 
One of many things I think sub-optimal about the now-standard "overhand" racking method is that it is very tempting to turn the pistol parallel to the body - and the firing line.
I remember the first time I tried the overhand method. I was shooting alone in the woods, and I made exactly that mistake. I turned the gun, and I realized immediately I had just pointed it the gun in a direction where I had no idea what it would hit if fired. I was alone in the woods, so no harm no foul, but I tried it again at my local indoor range and realized I had to turn my entire body to do it safely.

With overhand the gun is supposed to be turned sideways to the body but so is the body supposed to be sideways to the downrange direction. Net result is the gun is still pointing downrange.
Exactly. It's almost like you treat the gun as a permanent fixture suspended in space and need to rotate your body around the gun in order to be safe doing it.

I have become a permanent and unwavering slingshotter.
 
I'm talking about what people easily do, not what they are supposed to do.

But what you suggest is itself pretty close to trouble in my view. If the gun is in close to the body and parallel to it, it's very easy to get the muzzle pointing at/along the left forearm. I have seen this a bunch.
Very true. I don’t do it.
 
If the gun is in close to the body and parallel to it, it's very easy to get the muzzle pointing at/along the left forearm. I have seen this a bunch.
Yup, that too. I also see fingers in trigger guards when it's done. Makes me very grateful for the bullet proof glass on both sides of me at the range.
 
There's this myth that people don't have adequate strength gripping between their thumb and the forefinger to grab the slide and apply force. Maybe if they're using the fingertips, but humans generally have a LOT of gripping force between their thumb and the side of their index finger's proximal phalanx or interphalangial joint.

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If people without terrible arthritis or another disability are having a hard time racking with a slingshot method, it is nearly always because they are holding back. They are afraid that they are going to damage the gun, or that the sharp-ish edges of the gun is going to cut their hand. If you can open a water bottle, you have enough gripping strength to hang onto the slide and apply enough force to compress the recoil spring.
 
There's this myth that people don't have adequate strength gripping between their thumb and the forefinger to grab the slide and apply force. Maybe if they're using the fingertips, but humans generally have a LOT of gripping force between their thumb and the side of their index finger's proximal phalanx or interphalangial joint.

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If people without terrible arthritis or another disability are having a hard time racking with a slingshot method, it is nearly always because they are holding back. They are afraid that they are going to damage the gun, or that the sharp-ish edges of the gun is going to cut their hand. If you can open a water bottle, you have enough gripping strength to hang onto the slide and apply enough force to compress the recoil spring.
Crazy how often you hear “can’t”.
 
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