Neighborhood Kid with AK is Wreaking Havoc!!

[Langenator]

Looking at the map posted on one of the local TV stations, it looks like the house is at the end of a road near a body of water. Guess ADA's make decent $ in East TN. And in my experience, a lot of houses in the South are made of brick, so you wouldn't be able to shoot through it.

I would have to say that the reason they're just waiting is that his dad is the ADA. Plus, there's no hostages involved. Otherwise they'd probably have been much more aggressive.

 

[mattx109]

No news about this in my neck of the woods.

Any changes?

 

[Ky Larry]

Cost of 50 years of prison for punk- $50,000 a year for 50 years= $2,500,000.

Cost of a .308 FMJ round= $0.15.

Do the math.

 

[Ky Larry]

CNN is now reporting one LEO killed and 4 wounded in this standoff.

 

[Langenator]

Checked this story while getting ready to go to work this morning. Got in the car, and what happened to be queued up on the CD player? Right to this very spot...

"It's not his fault that he can't behave,
Society's made him go astray.
Perhaps if we're nice he'll go away.

Only a lad...you really can't blame him.
Only a lad...society made him.
He's out responsibility...

Hey there Johnny, you really don't fool me.
You get away with murder and you think it's funny.
You don't give a damn if you live or if you die.
Well hey there Johnny boy...I HOPE YOU FRY!!"

-"Only a Lad" by Oingo Boingo

 

[Mark Tyson]

Is the gun he's using the property of his parents?

 

[Tamara]

Anybody hear if he did the right thing during the night and saved the taxpayers some money?

 

[TCD]

Well, ammo for the anti crowds



Nevermind the kid was already screwed up enough to abuse his mom, and then premeditate a shooutout with the cops.


But I'm sure his AK/SKS will be blaimed for the rampage. Not our society which promotes violence, or poor parenting etc.

 

[Tamara]

I wish they'd give me the bullhorn.

"Son, we know you're in there, and we know you don't want to come out. Well, we don't particularly want to go in, either, so it looks like the both of us are in for a pretty long wait. Now, son, you know the only way you're gettin' out of there is in handcuffs or a body bag, and if you leave in handcuffs, you'll be spending the rest of your life in the Gray Bar Hotel. If your daddy can keep you off death row, that is. Son, you've also got a loaded gun in there, which brings us to option number two. How about suckin' it up and doin' the right thing, so the rest of us can go home, huh?"

Whaddaya think? I'd make a swell hostage negotiator, wouldn't I?

 

[spartacus2002]

I've got an anti-gun socialist bro-in-law (who is otherwise a great guy) living in Sweden who remarked to me once about how awful it is when all these kids go nuts with guns and killkillkill, we need to get rid of guns and stop this from happening again.

I told him that these events are more remarkable not because they happen, but because they happen so infrequently given the number of guns, teenagers, and teenagers with access to guns. They happen very infrequently, but because the media hypes it up so much and keeps the story going, you'd think it was a national nightmare.

That made him stop and think. 10-20 million teens? 80 million guns? 2-3 events a year that make the news? I'm just grabbing some numbers, but it's about as statistically significant as having a heart attack, being struck by lightning, winning the lottery, and being attacked by terrorists--all at the same time.

 

[Leatherneck]

*laughs nervously*
That's Tam's version of "Tough Love." Works for me. r

TC
TFL Survivor

 

[Bainx]

Watching an update on local TV news now [8:55am Sat.].
The standoff continues and no doubt, he is getting special treatment because of who he is.
And, wouldn't you know it....they interviewed a minister/youth pastor type who stated something to the effect "This young man has undergone some type mental distrubance and does not know what he is doing"

Oh brother! Here we go.
You gotta wonder how much more embarrasment the law agencies will take before they take proper action.


To mantispid: yes, the kid beat his mother and she fled.

 

[Bruce H]

Tamara had the right idea for yesterday. Today it should be " We're tired, hungry, more than a little upset so on the count of three fire a law through every window".

 

[Feanaro]

I am with the prevailing opinion, a .308 in the head will save us a lot of time and money. I have to wonder where the kid got his weapons and ammo though? His parent's weapons? Or did his parents buy them for him? Or did he obtain them illegally. It seems to me that he put at least a bit of fore-thought into this(Or perhaps I give him too much credit), perhaps even a week or more of planning. If so, did no one notice?

 

[ksnecktieman]

Where is Lon Horiuchi when we need him? Did the Feds sell the tanks they used to knock down the Branch Davidian compound in Waco? I think it is time for a grenade launcher to fire through a window. At least kill the power to the neighborhood, and go in with night vision?

It sounds to me like this kid is trying to commit a "blue suicide" and the police are refusing to help. Lethal force is justified. Is there no one there with the guts to order a bit of chlorine in the gene pool?

 

[fix]

What is the deal here? No media coverage. Standoff continues. I'm beginning to think conspiracy too. Conspiracy to prolong the standoff until the media finally catches on. I've just got very bad feeling about this. Something tells me that we will see a souped up AWB renewal pass the Senate in 2 weeks or less.

 

[Mulliga]

"Son, we know you're in there, and we know you don't want to come out. Well, we don't particularly want to go in, either, so it looks like the both of us are in for a pretty long wait. Now, son, you know the only way you're gettin' out of there is in handcuffs or a body bag, and if you leave in handcuffs, you'll be spending the rest of your life in the Gray Bar Hotel. If your daddy can keep you off death row, that is. Son, you've also got a loaded gun in there, which brings us to option number two. How about suckin' it up and doin' the right thing, so the rest of us can go home, huh?"

Fantastic response, Tamara. This should go into THR library .

 

[MicroBalrog]

you'll be spending the rest of your life in the Gray Bar Hotel

Am I the only one disagreeing?

 

[Litlman]

We had a friend of the family " loose it" a couple years back when he held of the Scranton Pa police dept. off for at least 17 hours or more with a 22 pump with shot shell in it. The police Knew that he was a hunter and did not know exactly what weapons he had in the 2nd floor apt. he lived in. They riddled the place with bullets and tear gas to no effect on him. Luckly no body was injured except him when the police made a final assault on the apartment. They bean bagged him. Alot of the police knew him well and I still heard them saying "we have movement in the back bedroom" "Green light" "Bang!". I listened to it for a long time on the scanner, pretty intense. Apparently he stuck to cover and held up in a back bathroom with wet towels tucked up against the door and over his face. No mask. All lights out. He did his time got released and lives in the same apartment, after some major remodeling. If they could have taken him out even though he did not injur anyone they would have and should have , just because of the possibility of him killing someone. They will put this kid down if the opportunity presents . As it should be. Be good...

 

[MicroBalrog]

IMHO, if it can be done without endangering civilians, he should be caught alive and undergo medical treatment.

 

[Glock Glockler]

Micro,

What about endangering the cops, do their lives count? We should put them in harm's way so we can spend tremendous amounts of time and money trying to find out what's wrong withthis lowlife?

What do your people do with any Hamas guys that take out an IDF soldier, try to get him alive to a shrink?

 

[MicroBalrog]

What do your people do with any Hamas guys that take out an IDF soldier, try to get him alive to a shrink?

While not a combat soldier, generally our guys are under the instruction to avoid opening fire as much as possible.

We do not, and I repeat not execute prisoners. As a matter of fact, Israel does not have the death penalty at all, with the possible exception of Nazis - and we executed only one of those in the last 55 years.

We're more advanced at least in that regard.

 

[TheBluesMan]

TheBluesMan said: It is an adult's fault that he got the gun and ammo.

WonderNine replied: No.

The only way I can figure that it may not be an adult's fault is if the kid stole the gun. If it is his father's gun, his father shares the blame.

 

[cordex]

We do not, and I repeat not execute prisoners.

Um ... how exactly does this fit in with the situation we're discussing? I certainly don't want them to take this kid prisoner and execute him. Kill him to stop him from killing others, perhaps, but not shoot him after he's been handcuffed. At least, not until he's had a proper trial.

As a matter of fact, Israel does not have the death penalty at all, with the possible exception of Nazis - and we executed only one of those in the last 55 years.

We're more advanced at least in that regard.

*laugh* "More advanced"! Because you don't remove true villans from your society?

That's rich, Micro! Boy's got a sense of humor!

 

[GunWares]

IMHO, if it can be done without endangering civilians, he should be caught alive and undergo medical treatment.

I agree. One dose of .308 should cure his condition permanently.