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Nevada no longer recognizes Arizona CCW

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Twiki357, Mar 5, 2013.

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  1. Twiki357

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    According to the news tonight (3/5/13), Nevada will no longer recognize an Arizona concealed carry permit as of this weekend. The news coverage was, as usual, rather nebulous, but it was reportedly the result of a vote by the Nevada sheriffs association because Arizona's "training" requirements are not as stringent as Nevadas.

    I'm not very familiar with Nevada law, but I wonder how this decision comes about by the sheriffs association without any action by the state legislature. Maybe someone can enlighten me.
     
  2. Quick Shot xMLx

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    More states need to do what NC did and simply recognize every CCW regardless of origin.
     
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    Aren't CCW permits approved or disproved by a county sheriff in all states? If so, that would seem to make sense.

    Or just institute constitutional carry nationwide. That would be a bit more ideal.
     
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    They don't recognize Texas CHL either.
     
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    Bobson; Here in AZ a county sheriff has no say in the matter. The AZ State Department of Public Safety is the sole authority. It varies by state. Some permits are issued by states, some by counties, and some by cities (Think Chicago.)
     
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    It's all about the dollar. They just want to create more revenue for their own state. Thats why they don't allow other states licenses.
     
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    Thanks. I've never bothered even looking into the permit process with anything more than a quick skim out of curiosity.
     
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    Circuit Court judge in Virginia
     
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    Another state that will not see a dime of my tourist dollar.
    CA and Oregon are the other two so far.
     
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    Why not New York? When I met my wife, she told me she's always wanted to visit NYC. I told her as long as she's with me, she'll never visit anywhere in New York. Since then, California and New Jersey have been added to the list.

    It's a shame - I've always wanted to see the statue of liberty. Problem is the statue seems to mean less and less these days. Oh well.
     
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    TN reciprocity is handled by the State Attorney General by signing an agreement with the appropriate issuing authority in the other State. I believe TN WILL accept any other State.
     
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    My question would be why would someone have an arizona permit anyways? Why not just get an out of state utah or florida permit? It's not like you need a permit to carry in AZ anyways.
     
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    There are a few reasons:

    1. You live in AZ and you want reciprocity in other states.
    2. You do need a CCW permit to carry concealed in a restaurant that serves alcohol.
    3. Ease of purchasing firearms through dealers and in face to face transactions.
    4. God forbid you ever have to use your weapon to defend yourself but having a CCW permit could help make an investigation go smoother if you do have to use it.

    I'm not saying that because of these reasons everyone should have one, but these are some advantages to having one.
     
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    My vacation dollars will be spent elsewhere.
    Bye bye Vegas.
    :(
     
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    I'm sorry but that's an absurd statement. Having visited NJ/NY several times I can say you and your wife are missing out on a lot of amazing things. Firearms aren't all-encompassing. God forbid you visit a foreign country.:rolleyes:
     
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    Where else are you going to go for a Vegas-like experience?
    Reno is out and Atlantic city NJ is even worse than NV. Besides, open carry is legal in NV.
     
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    Already seen a great majority of the countries I have interest in seeing. Anyway, travel wasn't the point, so much as the fact that it's a real atrocity when a citizen of a "free" country must stay in certain parts of that country if he wants to have a right to self-defense.

    Seeing the statue of liberty in person isn't going to help me sleep at night. Knowing I have the potential to protect my family does. Frankly, as of late, seeing the Statue of Liberty would probably annoy me more than anything else anyway.

    Statue of Liberty . . . SoL... now that's irony.
     
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    (to expand on an earlier comment) Another major benefit of a -current- AZ permit is that you don't have to get a NICS check done when you purchase. FIll out 4473, pay, leave.

    I also like to have it just to establish a base level of seriousness regarding concealed carry.

    As for NV, LV is tacky and I already have enough desert landscape in AZ so... oh well
     
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    Michigan now honors any resident concealed permit except for Illinois. but will not honor any non resident permit.

    I personally think that in the future more and more states will no longer honor non resident permits anywhere other than the state they are issued in. Why the need for a non resident permit in liew of a resident permit in the first place other than if you have a second residence there or do business on a regular basis.

    I am sorry but if you are ineligible for a resident concealed weapons permit. I don't want you carrying concealed.

    There must be a valid reason if your states concealed permit isn't reciprocal with some states, maybe you should put forth your efforts to make the changes necessary in your states requirements so it becomes reciprocal nationwide rather than trying to change others requirements.

    Other states would not have the requirements they they do if they were unconstitutional.
     
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    I believe the underlying rule is that NV will recognize CCP of other states if the other states requirements to get the CCP are the same as or greater than NV. NV requires a class and shooting requirement. If the other state does not have these element, NV will not accept. I not sure on this as I have not researched it for years.

    Basically NV has minimum requirements. Whether you meet those Min. requirement in NV or another state, no problem. If you don't meet NV min requirement, no CCP from NV or reciprocity. Some State bars and college classes are the same way.

    Did AZ lower their requirements to get a CCP?
     
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    As far as I'm aware, the casinos don't take too kindly to open carry, so you're not really going to get a "vegas experience" with open carry in NV.

    Don't get me wrong I think the law change is bogus, and I'd prefer constitutional carry in our state. With the way the state's been leaning as of late I wouldn't expect that to pass anytime soon.
     
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    I've been to upstate New York...great country...not much different from Virginia though...I did like Ft. William Henry and Saratoga and Ft. Ticonderoga. There is nothing in NYC which interests me at all....not the sights, not the people and most especially not the laws.
     
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    Apparently, getting a CCW in Arizona is no longer as stringent as getting one in Nevada. I applaud AZ for lowering their citizens 2A rights, but Nevada cops still have to follow NV law.

    In Nevada, you have to show you can make the gun go bang, as well as put at least 30 rounds from a revolver into the 7 ring of a B27 target at 5 yards, to a qualified instructor. 36 rounds if it's an automatic.


    http://www.arizonaccw.net/want-to-learn-more-about-right-to-carry-gun-laws/

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