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Never buying Speer Gold Dot again

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by bsctov, Apr 30, 2012.

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  1. bsctov

    bsctov Member

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    I had bought a box of Speed Gold Dot ammo for my ruger lcp, and half the rounds did not fire, and the ones that did felt like they were charged light. The primers had a firm impression from the firing pin, and the gun fired the federal ball and pmc ammo flawlessly.


    When I contacted Speer about it they basically told me sorry, better luck next time.

    "At any point in the future this happens please retain the example problem cartridges and factory packaging so it can be sent into us for testing and inspection.

    Austin @ CCI/Speer"


    Very poor customer service, will not be buying again. Beware
     
  2. jon86

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    I don't understand. Did you throw away the cartridges that did not fire? I've never had a problem with speer ammo, and use it in all my defensive firearms.
     
  3. Drail

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    I have used Speer products for many years and haven't had any trouble and the Gold Bullet is a very good design. But ALL of our ammo manufacturers seem to be having serious issues the last few years with quality control standards. I have seen Winchester ammo with primers inserted backwards or cases with no flash hole. And they all seem to not be very concerned about all of the setback problems that so many people are having. I'm glad I started reloading 30 years ago. The only factory ammo I buy is rimfire and it's pretty lousy quality too. CCI/Speer uses about the hardest primers on the market so if there is anything less than a full power firing pin strike you'll get misfires. And I think I have read of other people having light strikes with that specific gun. Try Federal. They're the softest and easiest to ignite primers.
     
  4. bsctov

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    Yeah I had the range owner there standing next to me and he offered to safely dispose of the defective rounds and I was so pissed off I didn't think to retain them to send back. Although, I'm not sure I'd want to transport cartridges with a struck primer either.


    A lesson learned I guess.
     
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  6. joecil

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    I use Speer Gold Dot ammo as my first choice in SD ammo. Never had a problem with it since it came on the market years ago.
     
  7. gun addict

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    Seems like the kind of response from a company i'd give or would expect to receive in this situation. They cant just give out free ammunition to anyone calling claiming that they've got a few defective bullets you know? Have you tried the ammo in other gun? Or perhaps tried to refire the round? Is your pistol clean and the firing pin channel free of debris?
     
  8. bsctov

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    Yeah I mean I cant say I blame them but when I had federal range ammo that was missing primers and had powder spilled all inside the box, they sent me a new one no questions asked.

    Live and learn I guess
     
  9. Certaindeaf

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    Well, at least you didn't buy 10,000 of them. I'd be tempted to seat some CCI primers into a few empties and see if they go bang. If they don't, your pistol is screwed up/not right.
     
  10. kingkeoni

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    Every pistol has its favorite ammo and least favorite ammo.

    Our department goes through thousands of rounds do Speer Gold Dots every year and I've never seen, had or heard of any problems with any of the rounds.
     
  11. JustinJ

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    I've always been very pleased with Speer Gold Dot and it is my CCW choice of ammo.
     
  12. Erik M

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    Sorry to break this to you OP but that's a candid answer that you will get from any reputable ammo manufacturer when you tell them you have a box of lemons. Speer and Federal will always be my top 2 CC ammo choices.
     
  13. Buck Kramer

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    Never had any problems with them, run like a swiss watch in my BG380...
     
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    How did the ammunition perform when 'properly' disposed of?
     
  15. Freedom_fighter_in_IL

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    OP, If I remember correctly, you sent Federal pictures of the problem ammo which is why they had no questions as you had clearly pointed out the problem with the box of ammo. As someone else stated, you can't just call a company and say "this box of ammo was faulty" and expect them not to ask for some sort of proof. There are just too many free loaders in the world that would take advantage of that trust and try to get free ammo.
     
  16. bsctov

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    I think you've got the wrong guy, I never posted about federal before today. So many people defending Speer it'd seem that some of the replies in this thread were made by shareholders or something. :neener:
     
  17. thump_rrr

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    I reload all of my own ammo but can understand purchasing SD ammo.
    If I were to call a manufacturer with an ammo problem I would at least have the lot number of the ammo in question at my disposal and a photo of the unfired rounds with struck primers.

    I have had several problems with a particular reloading press and when the customer service person seemed hesitant to replace something I offered to email him pics or a video of the problem.
    He immediately sent out replacement parts.
     
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    My thought was did you shot it with any other brands at the same time?

    I shoot my LCP, flawless, then carried it in my front pocket. I get a little dirty sometimes. Went shooting again, gun wouldn't fire, the slide was very hard. Lesson learned, clean your/mine gun, keep your pockets clean. That's my experience. Not blaming the gun or Ammo.

    Normally I buy different brands, pretty much if they are on sale.

    I didn't post in the steel case thread. I've shoot nothing but cheap Blazzer steel in my XDM9, in the 800-1000 round with no FTF. No signs of wear when I clean it.

    I didn't post in the .22 Remington thread. But I had the same experience, stop buying those.

    My SO went out and shot her .40, she bought a box of Winchester white box, fired all. Had to tell her about the thread about how some are not pressed in correctly.

    I think you will find a thread about all ammo, and how crappy or great it is. Not saying your box of Speer wasn't bad, just make sure you can eliminate any other source. If you are angry about the cost for defective rounds, you could always send the bad rounds back and ask for exchange. I don't think there costumer service is bad for wanting their "defective" product. Is it a pain, yes, but that is the process.
     
  19. Zerstoerer

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    Speer GD has been the duty load of a Federal LE agency that I can not disclose here.
    I have witnessed thousands of rounds fired through the worst looking magazines without a failure.
    As soon as that agency switched to Federal the failure rate went up.
    Go figure.
    Your results are meaningless unless you tried a different brand of ammo under the same conditions.
    Most likely your gun.
     
  20. oneounceload

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    I have shot sand reloaded Gold Dot bullets for years, never an issue - Speer makes some very good ammo; while you may not buy them again, I certainly will without reservation
     
  21. Happypuppy

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    I am a n00b to the forum, and I am interested if the primers were they dimpled? I had a rifle once that was doing somthing similar and the firing pin was hanging up
     
  22. holdencm9

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    Yeah Speer Gold Dots are my go-to round of choice in my LCP and Kahr CW9...never had any issues. Sorry your luck has been so bad.

    It is the best balance of quality and cost IMO.

    I keep DPX in my Beretta at home but that's too expensive to semi-regularly practice with in the CW9.
     
  23. Jenrick

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    Never had any issues with anything made by Speer. Out of the roughly 10K or so pistol rounds in various calibers I shoot a year (yep 10K a year), I only get 4 or 5 fail to fires. Even those usually fire on restrike, leaving me with usually 1 or 2 (if that many) rounds that fail to fire at all. Now this is using large commericial manufactures ammo (Win, Rem, Speer, etc.) not cheap gun show reloads. If you had multiple bad rounds, contacting Speer was the right thing to do, but you should have held onto them so they could see what the problem was.

    -Jenrick
     
  24. ApacheCoTodd

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    C'mon, You're absolutely being unreasonable if you aren't backing up your claims (that's all they are at this point) with the company. What do you expect them to do, just send ammo or money to everyone who makes such a claim?

    Hell, I haven't shot Speer Gold in a long time and I could just call up and cry foul.

    Just another: *your peeve company here* has lost a customer for good.... where's mine... the world owes me... complaint.


    Oh, and I'm not a share holder, just someone who has been on the receiving end of unsubstantiated claims as a manufacturer.
     
  25. Owen Sparks

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    Never had a problem with any Speer product.
     
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