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New .223 autoloader?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Felonious Monk, Jan 3, 2003.

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  1. Felonious Monk

    Felonious Monk Member

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    Half of the 2 new Kel-Tec mystery products: REVEALED

    Found this over at KTOG:

    Just got Guns and Ammo magazine for Feb and it has a half page ad (pg 37) for their new 5.56mm Sport Utility Rifle.

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    Kel-Tec's new SU-16 Rifle

    The SU-16 is a gas operated, self-loading rifle in .223 Remington caliber. Several unique feaures make the SU-16 a versatile sporting firearm.

    -Integrated Picatinny rail for mounting different sight systems.
    -The forend folds down to form a bipod for increased accuracy.
    -The stock can store spare magazines.
    -The stock and trigger mechanism can be rotated forward for added safety and to facilitate storage or carry under extreme conditions.

    The SU-16 utilizes proven M-16 breech locking and feeding system.

    Technical specifications

    Weight unloaded 5lbs
    Length open 37"
    Length closed 26"
    Barrel Length 18"

    (End Quote)

    Please, Lord: Let the other new Kel-Tec be a diminutive .380 single stack! :eek:
     
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  2. 762x51

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    Hmm...interesting. No info on their website yet. Any pictures? Hope it doesnt look like the Sub 2000.
     
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  3. Big Al

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    one word - PICS:D
     
  4. Betty

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    If the second one's a handgun, does this mean I have to move this thread back to General, or split it into Handguns? :p
     
  5. Felonious Monk

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    Gen'rul, ma'am.
    Least, that's my best guess. :uhoh:
     
  6. Blackhawk

    Blackhawk Member In Memoriam

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    I'm with you, FM!

    But I'd be even more tickled if it was a P-32 sized 9mm, a "Mighty Mouse" gun!

    Rohrbaugh's P-32 sized 9mm R-9 mouser is going to debut at the SHOT Show, and I'm going to get one of those, but they're too pretty to be beaters, so I'll take one in Kel-Tec Tactical too, please!
     
  7. Betty

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    Ouch!
     
  8. USGuns

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    Scanner anyone?

    Anyone have a scanner they can scan that ad in and let's see a pic of this thing! :D
     
  9. Pendragon

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    OMG!

    That sounds so tasty!

    I would like to buy a little EBR in .223 when I get out of GOH.

    I like how the Sub2000 folds up and it sounds like this gun does the same thing - and the evil geniuses decided to make it take AR 15 mags so people can have more than 10 rounds.

    Kel-Tec is a smart company.
     
  10. firestar

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    WE NEED PICS!
     
  11. Onslaught

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    Sounds interesting, but I'm with 762.... Sub2000 is FUGLY!

    And another thing... I SURE hope this thing takes AR mags!
     
  12. Matt G

    Matt G Moderator Emeritus

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    I looked around, but found surprisingly little info about it, even at KTOG. There was This thread, with a short description of the rifle.

    Kel Tec is smart about magazines: they're in the gun-making bidness, not the mag-making biz. IMHO, the smartest move about the Sub2000 (which I'm not actually that big a fan of, for its own sake) was making versions that would take common pistol mags. (And, of course, providing a really small carbine for folks in an area that disallows ownership of pistols.)

    I would be shocked if they didn't make this rifle to take AR mags.

    I want a .22 conversion kit made for my P-11, and a .357 Sig kit for the .40 (which I understand [from KTOG] is in the works).

    I'd love to see Kel Tec make a scaled-down single-stack version of the P-11, perhaps with M39 mags?
     
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    This sounds very interesting. Please, anyone with more info, don't keep us in the dark...

    - Chris
     
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    Is it just me or do these guys seem to have some stones - coming out with a brand new EBR, and making all the most concealable and affordable handguns. Just the kind of thing to drive anti-gunners bananas.
     
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    Agreed!

    Wish I could buy some stock in this operation.
     
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    Damn, this sounds awesome if it doesn't look like total ass (and takes AR mags, still be a little cool if it doesn't though...) I didn't see a new EBR coming from Kel-Tec.

    MUST HAVE PICS! Someone scan it.
     
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    FUGLY heck, sounds like someone figured out how to put an AR-18 into production.

    Yeah, I know, it's not a folding stock, but for a .223 for small spaces/storage, they may have it pegged.

    Just to support innovative products and 2A fortitude, I'll probably buy one.

    This company is doing right by us.
     
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    Scanned from p. 37 of the February 2003 issue of Guns & Ammo

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  19. Higgins

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    It's so fugly . . . and yet, so beautiful.

    Any idea on the price point Kel-Tech is aiming at for this thing? I wanted an Armalite AR-180B because they initially were supposed to be relatively cheap - which they aren't.

    If this thing undercuts AR-15 and the AR-180B prices by a couple of hundred dollars or so, like the Mini-14, then sign me up.

    Keep the good stuff coming. And to think, I was afraid I'd miss out on stuff like this with TFL gone. Thanks Oleg.
     
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    I want one! I want one! I want one!....
    Oh wait I live in Australia :mad:

    Looks like a mix between an M1 Carbine and a Bar. :cool:

    Hopefully it doesn't turn out to be a riccety piece of junk.
     
  21. Triad

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    Looks like a AR magwell. I'm pretty sure thats a 30 rnd. mag in the buttstock too.
     
  22. Chainsaw

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    I would definitely want to buy one even more so if it took AR mags. Does anyone know this for sure?
     
  23. Redlg155

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    Hmmm..Junk that silly forearm/bipod arrangement and mount a pistol grip forward like the M60 and you will have a super looking weapon.

    Lets hope it has a good METAL trigger that is a single action and not a silly long double action type.

    Good Shooting
    RED
     
  24. Penman

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    I think the Borg on TNG use those...
     
  25. m.i.sanders

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    I'd like to see one in person. I'll agree with Redlg155 that it needs a pistol grip, but I kinda like that integrated bi-pod thing. That might come in handy at some point.
     
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