Infidel4life11
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S&W M&P 9mm, Glock 19 that would be my picks my wife has both.
New 9mm search advice.
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alan
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Centurian22:
As has likely been mentioned, you might well consider the original CZ-75. They are a full size 9mm pistol, classic double action, that is double action for first shot, single action thereafter. They have a "thumb safety" ala the 1911 design and can be carried either hammer down on a loaded chamber, chamber empty, or "cocked and locked". They are also all steel and weigh about 32 Oz. The standard magazine holds 16 rounds + 1 chambered if desired. CZ makes first class firearms.
As has likely been mentioned, you might well consider the original CZ-75. They are a full size 9mm pistol, classic double action, that is double action for first shot, single action thereafter. They have a "thumb safety" ala the 1911 design and can be carried either hammer down on a loaded chamber, chamber empty, or "cocked and locked". They are also all steel and weigh about 32 Oz. The standard magazine holds 16 rounds + 1 chambered if desired. CZ makes first class firearms.
Buck13
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A mostly uninformed vote for the SIG 2022. Feels great in my hands and decent trigger dry-firing. Bargain price, and lots of people on-line like theirs. No place near me rents one, unfortunately. A few months ago, I heard a guy a few bays down at the range going on and on about his. When I was done with my lane, I went over to talk to him about it. He offered to let me shoot it but claimed to be out of ammo. After that, I bought a couple of boxes of cheap 115 gr FMJ and keep one in my range bag, just in case this happens again!
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Centurian22
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David E: She is on board with it but I completely understand how it comes across... trust me. She just has it wedged in that stubborn mind of hers that it has to have a manual safety and it has to be used, and anything less is unacceptable. You may very well be right that we have to each go our 'separate ways' on the gun choice. I certainly have no problem with that option (more guns the better) but she wants to keep the gun count (and cost) down as much as possible.
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As many have said the Ruger SR9c is a great option. However the manual safety on it is very small ans difficult to quickly click on/off. The M&P has a thumb safety option that is much more pronounced like a 1911 and would be much easier to sweep off during the draw stroke. That would be my vote
meanmrmustard
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Manual safeties on DAO pistols are like teets on a boar hog.
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Centurian22
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My biggest hang up about the M&P9 is the hinged trigger. I much prefer the bladed design. Though being a minor discrepancy the M&P9 is in the running and is the only gun on our list that we have access to actually fire.
meanmrmustard
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M&Ps are good guns. They handle recoil well, and I'm nearly sure the trigger won't bother her. My fiancé prefers the M&P 45 to the Ruger SR1911... That's saying a lot.
I do not find this to be the case. The safety functions well, easy to use, big enough to find yet small enough not to get in the way. I've never had the slightest problem getting if off running drills.
easyg
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Here's another recommendation for the Ruger SR9c.
This one is mine...
This one belongs to my wife...
This one is mine...
This one belongs to my wife...
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Fire_Moose
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I can't think of any reason to take pictures of loaded guns....
Man, LCI are silly.
useless signiture
Man, LCI are silly.
useless signiture
meanmrmustard
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Any pics you'll see of mine are locked, cocked, and ready to rock.
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Centurian22
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Well some progress has been made. Found a gun that the wife "Really likes the look of" which is the most colorful interest she has shown towards this process in a while.
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As mentioned before she doesn't like two tone, I tried other 1911's with black sights or black grips and all 'clashed'. But this one she really likes. Now I get to do some research on 1911's.
Oddly enough, I've been able to field strip one since I was 7 (thanks to my Vietnam era Marine Corp father), but do not know some basic details. Are most if not all 1911's single action only? On most if not all does the hammer have to be cocked for the safety to be on (irrelevant if they are SAO). I want to be able to accurately explain the controls and features in detail to my wife. If SAO, then there is no need or the Safety to be on as "when you pull the trigger it won't go bang". I did explain SAO to her and she doesn't like the idea of having to cock the hammer on the first shot.
I am now taking recommendations for 'entry level' 1911's under the $800 mark. The wife would like to stick to 9mm as she doesn't want to develop or worry about flinch from higher recoil or the additional cost of ammo. IF possible DA/SA, potentially decocker. I will be doing lots of research into all of this myself but always love the experienced input from all of you.
Thanks once again.
Edited to add: Are the sights usually replaceable on 1911's? I plan to have to purchase the pearl grips separately and potentially replace black sights with bright steel or nickel.
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As mentioned before she doesn't like two tone, I tried other 1911's with black sights or black grips and all 'clashed'. But this one she really likes. Now I get to do some research on 1911's.
Oddly enough, I've been able to field strip one since I was 7 (thanks to my Vietnam era Marine Corp father), but do not know some basic details. Are most if not all 1911's single action only? On most if not all does the hammer have to be cocked for the safety to be on (irrelevant if they are SAO). I want to be able to accurately explain the controls and features in detail to my wife. If SAO, then there is no need or the Safety to be on as "when you pull the trigger it won't go bang". I did explain SAO to her and she doesn't like the idea of having to cock the hammer on the first shot.
I am now taking recommendations for 'entry level' 1911's under the $800 mark. The wife would like to stick to 9mm as she doesn't want to develop or worry about flinch from higher recoil or the additional cost of ammo. IF possible DA/SA, potentially decocker. I will be doing lots of research into all of this myself but always love the experienced input from all of you.
Thanks once again.
Edited to add: Are the sights usually replaceable on 1911's? I plan to have to purchase the pearl grips separately and potentially replace black sights with bright steel or nickel.
otasan56
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Glock 17 or 19
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Centurian22
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David E: I'm aware that is the 'common' way to carry a 1911. However, the 'proper' way to carry any gun is the method in witch the carrier feels most confident. Your statement also didn't address any of my questions above.
Otasan56: see above statement from wife: "I wouldn't own a Glock if it was the last *(colorful adjective)* gun on the planet." I'm not a fan either. They don't feel right (to us), and I have a huge problem paying a primium price for a handgun that has design flaws including a hole in the grip that allows dirt, lint or other foreign matter directly into the trigger group, and using .40 cal springs in their 9mm guns leading to FTE stovepipes if the round isn't hot/heavy enough and grip isn't perfectly solid. I'm glad they work so well for so many but they aren't for us.
Dryft: looking into it now, thanks for the sugestion. If only we could put hands on one. Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the Augusta show, hope you enjoy it and find what you're looking for.
Otasan56: see above statement from wife: "I wouldn't own a Glock if it was the last *(colorful adjective)* gun on the planet." I'm not a fan either. They don't feel right (to us), and I have a huge problem paying a primium price for a handgun that has design flaws including a hole in the grip that allows dirt, lint or other foreign matter directly into the trigger group, and using .40 cal springs in their 9mm guns leading to FTE stovepipes if the round isn't hot/heavy enough and grip isn't perfectly solid. I'm glad they work so well for so many but they aren't for us.
Dryft: looking into it now, thanks for the sugestion. If only we could put hands on one. Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the Augusta show, hope you enjoy it and find what you're looking for.
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No, the proper way to carry a 1911 for defense (keywords: proper, carry, defense) IS cocked and locked. There are other ways, but they are improper. (substitute the word "proper" for "smart" if you wish)
No, the safety won't engage with the hammer down.
No, there isn't a factory made DA version of the 1911, tho several custom smiths have come up with DA mechanisms fitted to a 1911. Most notably, Seecamp. Don't know if they still offer it.
She won't like cocked and locked and carrying it any other way for defense just isn't smart.
No, the safety won't engage with the hammer down.
No, there isn't a factory made DA version of the 1911, tho several custom smiths have come up with DA mechanisms fitted to a 1911. Most notably, Seecamp. Don't know if they still offer it.
She won't like cocked and locked and carrying it any other way for defense just isn't smart.
P-Dog
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Have and carry the XD9 for several years. Love it! The safety is solid. A manual safety, in my opinion, is easier to unintentionally switch. XD with the palm & the trigger safety requires 2 points of contact to operate. With a disciplined trigger finger, it's all good. If in a "situation" the safety is quickly turned off by the natural movement of unholstering and engagement of the trigger.
otasan56
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I just thought to suggest . . . .
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I have had The CZ-B and D. Very nice and will not break the bank.
the warehouse is in Kansas City KS. They also own Dan Wesson
and the point man series is quality at it's best. More expensive than the
CZ D which like all CZ'z has a double stack mag.
the warehouse is in Kansas City KS. They also own Dan Wesson
and the point man series is quality at it's best. More expensive than the
CZ D which like all CZ'z has a double stack mag.
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