New Glock 17 FTR series shoots best with Magnum 115g factory load..my reloads are 125g LC lead which seems to go right or totally miss my big target at the range..I've tried min/max gn loads but still the factory load hits the target..I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this..
New Glock 17 shooting reload with 125gr lead
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REAPER4206969
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You should not shoot lead in a Glock.
Full Metal Jacket
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^^^+1. a lot of people do, and press their luck doing it. i wouldn't.
REAPER4206969
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The reason is that the polygonal rifled barrel is susceptible to excessive leading which causes overpressure leading to possible catastrophic failure as well as poor accuracy due to the bullet not fully engaging the polygonal rifling. Use only full metal jacket/plated bullets in Glock barrels. If you wish to shoot lead in your Glock you can purchase an aftermarket drop-in land-and-groove Ballard rifled barrel such as this:
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=926
http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=926
cottonmouth
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I put a Lone Wolf barrel in my Glock 22RTF and it seems to do fine so far.
J.B.
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Reaper, read Chapter 4 of "The GLOCK in Competition" for a real answer to the lead bullet question. Yours is the conventional wisdom, but is not entirely accurate.
To the accuracy question: Did you re-seat the lead bullets? In plated or lead bullets, seating, then re-seating them shorter CAN cause keyholing and highly inaccurate shots even as close at 10 yards.
What OAL are you using?
Dan
To the accuracy question: Did you re-seat the lead bullets? In plated or lead bullets, seating, then re-seating them shorter CAN cause keyholing and highly inaccurate shots even as close at 10 yards.
What OAL are you using?
Dan
Never got a good result shooting lead in the Glocks polygonal rifled barrel so I quite trying. In my defense though it was done 20 years ago prior to all the warning about lead in Glocks. A conventionally rifled aftermarket barrel like the one from Lone Wolf would likely be the remedy if you think the cost is worth it.
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Hk Dan said:
you should read the manual that comes from glock and is included with each gun.
it expressly warns against lead loads in it's pistols. i tend to take manufacturer warnings as truth-they built it.
SCBradley
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Almost every manual I've ever had states that you should never shoot reloads. Is that because it is an unsafe practice, or is it to cover the manufacturer's a**?
Lead is perfectly fine in a Glock if the hardness and velocity are correct. If you're not sure, don't shoot it.
you will be best off putting a traditional grooved barrel in instead of using the polygonal barrel. It's worth it. The last thing you want is to have your new Glock be the reason why you need a new finger or two. Besides, the lead stuff - even if it doesn't potentially harm the gun - is dirty.
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SCBradley
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If you didn't reload the rounds, don't shoot them. When reloading, if you're not sure you know what you're doing, walk away.
easyg
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No bare lead and no re-loads, and your Glock will serve you well.
Use re-loads and bare lead and you're just begging for fate to make an example of you.
Use re-loads and bare lead and you're just begging for fate to make an example of you.
Hey. The lead issue can be solved by using plated lead bullets from a manufacturer like Berry's Bullets. If you order an aftermarket barrel, you should let the company you order from know that it is for lead reloads as the tolerances will have to be a bit looser than match grade for that.
The accuracy is more confusing. You say it shoots best with a Magnum 115gr load. Do you mean +P rated? At what distance are you shooting? I've seen reloads have a slightly different point of impact, but never a big enough change to miss a target if you had the gun zeroed to begin with. Can you provide more info??
The accuracy is more confusing. You say it shoots best with a Magnum 115gr load. Do you mean +P rated? At what distance are you shooting? I've seen reloads have a slightly different point of impact, but never a big enough change to miss a target if you had the gun zeroed to begin with. Can you provide more info??
So you are saying that reloading is dangerous? lol, ok.
Sam1911
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Wow....where do ideas like this things get started?
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Patrick R
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I use a Lone Wolf barrel in my G 17. 125 gr LRN bullets. Works well.
Shot over 1000 lead rounds so far.
Shot over 1000 lead rounds so far.
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SCBradley said:
you might want to re-read my post, bro. i never mentioned reloads.
i stated that the glock manual strictly warns against using LEAD bullets (as does every other manufacturer that utilizes polygonal rifling). if you want to press your luck, more power to you. however, i will take glock's word for it.
a lot of folks disregard these warnings and press their luck. not me, i'll take the safe route, thanx.
...and since you mentioned it, the reason you should pay attention to glock's warning about using reloads is their loose chamber dimensions, and unsupported chambers. this warning is not a lawyer proofing measure as with other manufacturers. what do you think causes "glock kabooms"?
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SCBradley
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No, I did. Almost all manufacturers specifically state not to use reloads ever in their guns, just as Glock says not to use reloads or lead.
This statement would also mean that you would never shoot reloads in any gun whose manual tells you not to.
My 1911s don't have fully supported chambers either. There is little if any difference in resizing cases fired from my 1911s or G36. The 36 has eaten more of my loads than any of my steel .45s
SCBradley
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And all lead is not equal. I don't get any leading in a Glock.
ljnowell
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Because, in the case of Lonewolf Glock barrels its true. I have had to have it done to mine and almost every one I know that ordered one.
It was a waste of money anyway, my G21 is just as accurate with my lead reloads with the stock barrel. I have shot 2-300 rounds at a time, never a lead filled bore that would cause a dangerous condition. Thats because I know how to reload. I know how to tailor a load to a gun to prevent leading. Its not real hard, and its not risking anything, if you understand the principles behind it.
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