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New Glock Handgun Sights

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by D.R. Middlebrooks, Jan 5, 2012.

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  1. D.R. Middlebrooks

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    D. R., long time no see!

    Thought about you the other day when discussing "accuracy" and "speed," with someone. I recalled our conversation at the 2001 IDPA Nat's about a pompous shooter who was so slow and inaccurate on every stage because he said he shot it "tactically."

    PM me, maybe I can test those sights!
     
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    Its a nice sturdy sight. But lacking any kind of dot or light gathering ability at the rear. makes it a non starter for me.

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  4. David E

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    Why do you want to clutter your sight picture with inconsequential crap?
     
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    While the stock sights do OK in daylight they aren't really doing much in low light. I doubt anyone would argue the glock sights aren't the cheapest sight known to man.

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    I understand completely, we're working on it… :)

    I wanted to get this model out for the competition shooters first (Hi David :)) and for the guys who prefer a BLACK rear blade. Most Top Shooters I know prefer a black rear and a RED DOT front.

    The GREEN DOT fiber optic is better at dusk and dawn, and some people can see it better than the RED during the day. Tritium of course is VERY popular at night (front and rear). To each his own, and that's why there needs to be some variety. :cool:

    Personally, I prefer a plain WHITE DOT in front for carry (for use with my flashlight) as it’s also the strongest sight I make (torture test coming soon :what:)...

    www.TacticalShooting.com
     
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    At first I thought they did the cinderblock chopping with the "fish gill" serrated slide.
     
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    Yeah, like fiber optic inserts in the front, or those radio active bulbs Trijicon uses. :evil:
     
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    It would be really nice if the video showed how the rear sight can be adjusted (both windage and elevation).

    Otherwise I like 'em.

    Dan
     
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    I'm in the market for adjustable sights for a G20, and ran across these the other day while looking around for different options. Would these sights be a good fit for precision type shooting in hunting applications? For normal daytime shooting I've always assumed that markings on the rear sight would tend to grab focus from the front sight. But for low light, dusk shooting conditions, I wonder if tritium or fiber optics would help with sight alignment.. Thoughts?
     
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    Yes. The sight picture shown with the round top red dot and square notch has been used to win National & World Championships, setting new records for both speed and accuracy…

    Exactly. Some rear sights are so cluttered up they tend to over power the front sight. That's why we need to make the front sight more attractive to the human eye than the rear. There is a reason Top Shooters prefer plain black in the rear…

    Yes, I find a thin white line or green fiber works best during "legal hunting hours". Tritium is best for spotlighting deer, though (don't ask me how I know. :uhoh:).

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    Was wondering what the sight specs are. Can't find that info on the site.
     
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    Specs:

    The front sight is .250” High x .125” Wide.

    The rear sight notch is .140” Wide x .095” Deep.

    The rear blade stands .250” above the top of the slide with NO elevation inserts.

    Jacked ALL the way up the rear blade is .306” (even with the flat on the wings or protective ears). But that’s 7” of elevation adjustment at 25 yds. :eek: Never had to go anywhere near that high thus far.

    Most 9MM’s don’t need any shims by the way, some need only 1-3. :cool:
     
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    Thanks. Technical question: Has there been any incidences of the Phillips screw to loosen over time? I ask this since nylon has a slight tendency to cold flow (depending on certain conditions, heat being one) which could cause a loosening of the clamping forces. BTW, nylon 6/12 and 6/6T have some of the best dimensional stability properties of the various nylons because of their very low moisture absorption rates (all nylons are hygroscopic to some degree).

    Dan
     
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    That's a nylon screw? It looks like a zinc plated metal screw.


    Seems to me it'd look better black.

    Surely there is a reason they use that one.....
     
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    The screw looks to be stainless steel. The shims used to adjust vertical are made of nylon. I'm just asking if there has been any noticeable cold flow of the nylon shims that could contribute to loosening of the mounted rear blade screw over time. Thread locking compund on the screw would assist in mitigating this if it were indeed an issue.

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    Background & field of invention...

    The elevation inserts (or shims as everybody likes to call them) are Nylon (Dan I need to PM you on this. Where were you when I needed you, anyway? ;) You seem to be smart on this stuff! :cool:). The screw is stainless and it’s a #2 Phillips for good reason.

    The general consensus is that it seems nobody EVER has the right size Allen wrench, but somebody ALWAYS has a Phillips screw driver handy anywhere in the world. Same holds true for the shooting ranges here in the USA.

    More info to follow…
     
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    Adjustment system and Nylon shims...

    We’ve used this sight adjustment system since 1996 on my custom Pro-Sight® Installations (And YES, PRO-SIGHT® is a Registered Trademark of mine and you folks out there need to knock off the use of it, and I’m asking you NICE, as a Gentleman :cool: ).

    The shim adjustment system has been used from Alaska to Tucson on DUTY GUNS and on CARRY GUNS (and overseas in inclement weather). So far, NO problems.

    P.S. - Dan I still need to PM you as I have some questions and could use your advice. I’m just SWAMPED right now with emails and phone calls. Thanks! :)

    D.R.

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    I agree that an Allen head would suck for the reasons listed. I've stripped out plenty of Phillips head screws. That's why I suggested a Torx head in the email.

    I bought some wood screws yesterday for $3.99 that were Torx head. I was tired of stripping out the phillips head screws. They thoughtfully included a Torx bit in the package. I don't envision needing to constantly change or adjust the sight once zeroed and secured, so not carrying a Torx bit in my pocket shouldn't cause a problem.

    The white screw, to my mind, makes it look cheap. Like you ran out of the correct screw, so used this one instead to get the sight out the door.

    Why not put a black finish on a stainless screw?

    Regardless, I would buy this sight as is.
     
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    The proof is definitely in the field testing. My concerns are totally academic and on the fringe, I can see by your statements that you have the design down cold.

    Yes, please PM me, I am a Mechanical Engineer by profession and have worked with many plastic types for various applications (also, metals of course). I would be glad to assist in any questions you may have without hesitation.

    Dan
     
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    Trust me, I have spared no expense bringing this sight to market. It’s a special screw, low profile and all. I even had my own front sight hold down screws made to my specs, too. :cool:

    But that’s a good idea. Thanks, I always welcome good input (weather I like it or not :eek: ).
     
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    Will do, Thank You! Look forward to it. :cool:
     
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    I have no doubt this screw does everything it's supposed to do and then some. I was merely commenting on the aesthetic appearance.
     
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