New gun day! G23.

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Trey Veston, Jun 19, 2021.

  1. Trey Veston

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    Got to go pick up my new Gen 4 G23 Glock from my FFL. It's been a while since I've held a Gen 4 compact with the finger grooves, and I forgot just great they feel in my hand.

    This is a NIB special distributor version that was Cerakoted, which I wasn't crazy about, but finding a NIB Gen 4 G23 these days is getting tough, and the price was decent, so I pulled the trigger.

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    Had to go work a 12 hour graveyard shift tonight, so only had time to fondle it and install the new front sight.

    Ironically, I stopped at the post office on my way to the FFL and the new set of Dawson sights arrived, so when I got to work, I sat in my car and installed the front sight.

    I discovered that when I went to remove the factory sight, it was already loose and halfway out of the slot. Apparently, when they reassembled the pistol after the cerakote, they forgot to tighten the front sight.

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    Not a big deal for me, but would have sucked if someone bought it and took it to the range only to discover it was hitting all over the place.

    Got the Dawson FO sight on, and will install the rear tomorrow before doing a full range evaluation and side by side shootout with my Gen 5 G23. Also have an extended slide release and Glock (-) connector to install.

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  2. JR24

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    Looks nice!

    I'm the opposite, can't stand the grooves on the compacts but just love them on the full size, especially Gen 4.
     
  3. Buckeye63

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    Great handgun and caliber ….
    Congratulations

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  4. WrongHanded
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    I can't say I mind the color, though I wouldn't go out of my way to find it. But it would have been nice if they'd made the backstraps the same color.

    My Glocks (G22, G23, G33) are all Gen 4. I don't know if I like the finger grooves or not, because I've never shot that frame size without them. I did buy an LE trade-in Gen 2 G21 at one point. No finger grooves, but the grip was worn slick. I didn't like that much at all.

    Good call on the Dawson sights. I have a black rear and tritium front on the G22, and really wish I'd put that setup on the G23. It's easy to be precise with sights designed for just that.

    Congrats!
     
  5. Riomouse911

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    Love the whole package; gun, caliber and sights. Well done! :thumbup:

    Of course, when you get a chance to escape from work and run your new G-23 let us know how it shoots for you :).

    Stay safe.
     
  6. CDW4ME

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    Glock 23 is one of my preferred carry guns.
     
  7. Hartkopf

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    Looks good to me! I would carry that thing in a heartbeat!


    All my Glocks have finger grooves except one, a gen5 19. I never notice any difference when I shoot the g19.
     
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  8. Buckeye63

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    Im just a big fan of the 40 S&W ..The idea of the of a larger & more powerful round being housed in pistol thats the same size as a 9mm …
    180gr HST is a great SD round ..

    I personally despise the enlarged slide on the Gen 5 Glock 23
    Now Im really hoping this slide on the Gen 5 23 will find its way on a Glock 29 !!!
     
  9. Trey Veston

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    Just got off work and it's killing me knowing I probably won't have time to take it to the range. Have to go to bed and get a few hours sleep, then go visit my dad and give him his present, then drive to another town and see my stepdad and mom and give my stepdad his present. Will have time to install the rear sight, and polish and install the connector.

    Hopefully Monday can go to the gravel pit/range and do a video for Youtube and some accuracy testing.

    Really like the feel of both the Gen 5 and the Gen 4. But the Gen 5 just is noticeably bulkier and heavier. Whenever I pick it up empty, I think it has rounds in the magazine due to the increased weight.

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  10. JR24

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    I feel ya. Picked up a .40 P2000 on Friday, Saturday realized my 10mm dies won't quite cut it for the .40 and have to wait till at least tomorrow for the dies to arrive in the mail, then find the time to load some. Maybe Wednesday morning I'll be able to hit the range, briefly.

    Luckily I had about 9 .40 laying around from the years ago when I last had a .40, so I was able to shoot a few at least.
     
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  11. Trey Veston

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    What dies? I use the same Lee dies for 10mm and .40 S&W.
     
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    Mine are just 10mm, not the combination. The bullet seating and deprime/sizing die work fine, but the power through expanding can't get deep enough to widen the case mouth enough to seat the bullet without crushing my cases.
     
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  13. Trey Veston

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    Got the sights installed, then the extended slide release, then polished the new Glock (-) connector and installed a smooth trigger Gen 4 assembly I had left over.

    Trigger turned out awful. Gritty and heavy, which makes no sense. Took it all apart and tried another extra aftermarket 3.5 lb trigger connector. Lighter, but mushy with lots of creep. Put back in the stock serrated trigger assembly with OEM (-) connector, more polishing, and got it smoother and crisper, but still breaking at nearly 6 lbs.

    I really freaking hate Glock triggers. They are witchcraft. Not a single one across three generations and over a dozen Glocks I've owned has ever been the same.

    My Gen 4 G29 has a stock assembly that has been polished. It breaks clean and crisp at 4.5 lbs. It's perfect. My Gen 4 G35 has a OEM (-) connector and polishing, along with a Gen 3 trigger bar. 4.25 lbs and not bad, but not as good as the G29.

    This G23, was crisp and predictable, but over 6 lbs. Lots of polishing, plus the (-) connector and it isn't as crisp as it was and barely lighter. Just frustrating.

    So, taking it to the range tomorrow to put a bunch of rounds through it. Was hoping the trigger would be lighter for accuracy testing, but it is what it is. Looks cool...

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    Sorry to hear about your trigger problems. I've had the same experience. The same parts into 3 different gen 4s, different results in each. The G22 was the worst, so I had to do a lot of work on that one to get it decent.

    I hope you figure it out.
     
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  15. Trey Veston

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    I broke down and ordered a new Timney trigger assembly. Supposed to be revolutionary and about a 3 lbs phenomenal trigger. Lots of debate as to why this should only be for competition or range guns. But, the new S&W Shield Plus is coming in at around 3 lbs for the trigger and reviewers are gushing over it.
     
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    I love New Gun Day. Congratulations on the pistol, but sorry to hear about the trigger!
     
  17. JR24

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    I've learned that my best bet is always to just learn each Glocks stock trigger instead of messing with it, it's really made things less frustrating for me.

    Then again, lately I've been shooting heavy HK DA triggers (and most of my dry fire has been with the HK too) so all my Glocks feel like hair triggers in comparison!
     
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    Went out to the range and shot a bunch of different loads through both the Gen 5 G23 and the Gen 4 G23. Most all at 25 yards with a rest to try and determine accuracy.

    The Gen 4 was hampered by the awful trigger, which seemed to get heavier as I went. And, the sights are off and I forgot my sight adjustment tool at home. And, it seems like the cerakote affected things since a lot of it was on the barrel, and the first couple of groups were absolutely awful.

    Finally started to settle down and I got some more consistent results, but it was 92 degrees today and I was on a 24-hr fast, so just beat after over an hour in the sun.

    Gen 5 was still slightly more accurate, but the Gen 4 was getting tighter the more I shot it. I think the addition of the Timney trigger will really make it a more accurate pistol.

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    Shot 5 rounds offhand at 7 yards and had the first 3 shots within 1/2" and two in the same hole, then threw the last 2 shots to open it up to an inch group. Not bad.

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    Looking forward to breaking it in further, and seeing what the trigger will do to improve things. But it is frustrating to not be able to just take an out of the box defensive pistol and not have to replace the sights and the trigger to get acceptable groups, but such is life with Glocks.
     
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    I recently put a Timney Glock Alpha competition trigger in a G19 Gen 5 and all I can say is it lives up to the hype! It is light but has a wall. But it’s NOT heavy. I am going to have to shoot it a few times before I carry it, but it is totally a game changer Glock trigger.



    But it’s light…so definitely need solid trigger discipline!
     
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  20. WrongHanded
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    Trey, the problem I had with my G22 trigger may be the same as you have. And what it came down to was the trigger bar where it interfaces with the connector. The shape was just not quite right, so I modified it. It had kind of a lump on it, and I decided it just didn't look right compared to others.

    You might take it out and compare it to the trigger bar of a different gun of the same size.
     
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    Duplicate
     
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    QUOTE="Trey Veston, post: 11970351, member: 245544"]

    Gen 5 was still slightly more accurate, but the Gen 4 was getting tighter the more I shot it. I think the addition of the Timney trigger will really make it a more accurate pistol.

    Looking forward to breaking it in further, and seeing what the trigger will do to improve things. But it is frustrating to not be able to just take an out of the box defensive pistol and not have to replace the sights and the trigger to get acceptable groups, but such is life with Glocks.[/QUOTE]

    the Timney Trigger will really surprise you. It’s that different.

    Agree regarding sights. But I’ve decided to put Red Dots on many of my guns so the sights mean less these days.
     
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    Nice acquisition. :thumbup:
     
  24. Trey Veston

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    Did three videos of the range trip. The last one is of the last groups shot...

     
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