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Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Brotatochip, Aug 18, 2021.

  1. Brotatochip

    Brotatochip Member

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    Hi all ! First time posting here. My uncle passed away a couple months ago and left me some old guns. I was talking to my buddy at work about them and he mentioned putting a laser on one. This was a great idea because the sites are pretty small. I found a laser and a mount on eBay and put it on the barrel with some JB weld. I was careful to put down tape so there is no extra job showing. It looks great and works pretty good

    My problem is the bullets hit to the left of the laser. Is there a way to make the bullets go more right so they hit where the laser points?
     
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    You need to mention what the firearms are: handgun (semi- or revolver), rifle, shotgun, etc., etc. Then, the maker, and the model number. Finally, the caliber. Plus, what instruction have you had in using firearms?
     
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    I have to wonder if this is a joke, but I'll humor it with benefit of the doubt.

    #1. Unless it's a bb gun, JB weld ain't gonna cut it for mounting anything on a gun. What kind of gun? Model? Caliber?

    #2. You get what you pay for with lasers. Cheap ones will not stay zeroed and depending on the caliber, may not even stay in one piece for long. What kind of laser did you buy?

    3. You don't make bullets go where the laser points, you make the laser point where the bullets hit. There should have been instructions and an Allen wrench with the laser to make adjustments, but if mounted with JB weld, it is doubtful there is enough range in the adjustment screws to compensate for the misalignment in mounting.

    Come back with more information and you will get plenty of help.
     
  4. Spats McGee

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    Welcome to THR, @Brotatochip! You're likely to get a ton of flak about that JB weld. More information on the guns would help, and we like pictures. :D That said, lots of members are very cautious not to post photos of the serial numbers on their guns.

    Oh, and the problem isn't really that the bullets are in the wrong place. The problem is more likely to be that your sight isn't zeroed properly. IOW, it's the laser that's off, not the bullets.
     
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    Bench the gun (shoot from a solid platform on the bench), shoot a five-shot group at the distance you want the laser to be sighted for, and then , while the gun is still rigidly secure, adjust the laser until it points at the center of the group of holes. That will get you started.

    Or, you can just wait for the JB Weld to fail and see if the laser shifts by itself more toward zero. ;)
     
  6. CapnMac

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    Welcome to THR, but Internet Rule One really applies here: Pictures or it didn't happen [:)]
    We need a ton more info to answer this.
     
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  7. wiscoaster

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    Ya, I can't believe someone would actually mount something on a gun with JB Weld. Waiting to see if it's a troll or not ...
     
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    Interested in how this thread turns out.
     
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  9. Brotatochip

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    I’ll get you guys some pictures this weekend when I get back from work it’s a single shot rifle, I told my buddy what ya’ll said about JB. He googled epoxy and gun sights and pulled up a whole mess of folks that say it’s the way to go. Scattergun technologies, some guys on Ruger forums. He showed me where you can buy the stuff from brownells which is supposed the bees knees.

    I dunno, I was just trying to have some fun with an old gun. If JB is the wrong stuff what should I use?
     
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  10. d2wing

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    Welcome to the forum. Well all kinds things are said by all kinds of people. Not to name names. If you can adjust the laser as mentioned and I hope that you don't do that again.
     
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    My biggest question is the firearm itself, basically what make and model. Yes pictures are great, focus on the gun as a whole and on any makings (aside from serial numbers for now). If you have a bore scope I'd like to see a picture of the bore. There's always that outside chance you could be destroying the value of a collectors gun epoxying a sight on it.
     
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    Welcome and please provide us with more information. Uploaded photos are worth 1000 words, some say. A better description of what you have, firearm and laser wise would be better than nothing though.
     
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  13. chicharrones

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    I’ve seen epoxy used under sight mounts in addition to screws straight from the factory on some rifles. This was done as a gap filler between the metal parts for expediency of manufacturing. JB Weld is an epoxy, but I don’t know how long it can take recoil without screws for support.
     
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    Ditto that. That was my gut reaction. "Old guns" bequested by an uncle could be something very special. People should be free to do whatever they want with their property. BUT ... other people are also free to express their opinions about whether or not it was a good idea. The best time to ask if the deed is good is before doing the deed. Been there, done something, found out later it was done wrong, and then found it was undoable, too many times myself.
     
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  15. Demi-human

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    That’s the important part! :)
    Did you a least have fun?:thumbup:

    The laser can be zeroed to where the bullets impact.
    If it is mounted too far out of whack it won’t have enough adjustment to zero. But try first, you might be fine.
    Shoot a picture of the mount set up. If you were careful for it to look good, you probably got it straight too.
    I assume the old rifle is a rimfire? With no way to attach a scope? Oh, well. As long as you like it, good enough!

    Now if any of this doesn’t work out, come back with some more pics and we can help you out. There is definitely a way to enjoy this rifle.
     
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    @Brotatochip welcome to the forum. Can't say that I've ever used jb weld to attach anything to my rifles, but have used it to stiffen the forearm on flimsy stocks, worked well for that purpose. Hopefully you have enough adjustments in your laser to zero out your rifle.
     
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    I used JB Weld on the rear sight of a M1 carbine. I sledge hammer can't move it !!
     
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    This goes to the OP. Were you able to take pictures of the setup?
     
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    :what::what::what: what did you do to ensure your mount was parallel with the bore?
     
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  20. Brotatochip

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    I’ll tell you what, the good lord never intended for man to work to live. Sorry for the tardy response. Since the epoxy didn’t go over too well I used a heat gun and scraped it off. I found bits and pieces on eBay and made some sights with some scrap metal.

    It says New England Firearms and best I can tell it’s a slug gun that has a 31/2 chamber. The wood parts look wrong. I don’t think it came with brass parts either. I think it’s a frankengun of some sort.
     

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  21. Demi-human

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    Well! That is definitely not a rimfire!:)
    Hubel Express?
    Very cool indeed! The new sights look proper too.:thumbup:
     
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    That might be a gauge rifle. Dose the barrel have rifling? If so, it might be more valuable then you think.
     
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