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New Hornady Manual Available

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by john16443, Nov 14, 2012.

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  1. john16443

    john16443 Member

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    There's a new Hornady reloading manual available, 9th edition. Quick question for those that have older editions.

    Does the loading information reflect only Hornady bullets with various powders?
     
  2. gfanikf

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    I got some notices about it a week ago...about 2 weeks after buying the 8th edition. :banghead:
     
  3. HOWARD J

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    They show pictures of Hornady bullets
    115gr bullet is still a 115gr no matter who makes it
    I use their info for all mfrs bullet weights
     
  4. HOWARD J

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    @gfanikf
    Just saved yourself about $10 buying the old book
    The old book ain't very old
     
  5. cfullgraf

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    Right, the Hornady manual includes only Hornady bullets but does have a selection of powders.

    From any of the manufacturers, their manuals include only their products. Bullet manufacturers only have their bullets, powder manufacturers only have their powders.

    Lyman and Lee, who do not manufacture bullets or powders, have more variety. I think the cast bullets in the Lyman book center on Lyman molds though.
     
  6. cfullgraf

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    Except there are new bullets and powders that have been introduced since the old book was released.
     
  7. Flatbush Harry

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    Actually, there are differences in pressures and performance for different bullets of the same weight. A 168gr Barnes TSX/TTSX has no lead but has 3 or 4 rings cut in the bullet to manage pressure and reduce fouling, as compared to a lead core hunting bullet as opposed to a match bullet. Differences in jacket thickness, alloys and design produce different ballistics, accuracy and behavior. Plated bullets, like Speer's DeepCurl have different characteristics than jacketed bullets like Speer's HotCor and different loads are recommended by the manufacturers. Also, different rifles perform differently with various bullets.

    Accordingly, I have the manuals from all the manufacturers whose products I use...powder (Alliant, Vihtavuori, Hodgdon/IMR/Winchester), bullets (Speer, Sierra, Barnes, Nosler, Lapua and Hornady) and my old faithful, Lyman's (49th ed currently). I also check manufacturer websites for updates and notices. I recommend this...it has worked well for me though YMMV.

    My goals are threefold:

    1. the safest, most reliable ammunition I can produce
    2. a custom load for each gun and application that I have in mind that offers best accuracy or terminal performance from each rifle
    3. personal safety while hand loading and shooting

    Much like shooting itself, these goals can be realized by a combination of the right training, the right knowledge base and the right attitude. I've been loading since 1978 with no incidents save for a few broken decapping pins and bent recapping assemblies from sizing/decapping the occasional Berdan-primed case that got mixed in with my surplus mil .30-06 and 7.62x51 brass (I usually inspect cases after I resize them as cracks and head separations sometimes happen as I work the brass).

    FH
     
  8. HOWARD J

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    If you work up a load from anyones book you will not get in trouble.
    I started around 1970 using books that have much heavier loads than today.
    Working up from these books pesented no problem.
    It is nice to have a lot of books or manuals
     
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    No kidding. I took a minute to look it up and realized that I've got #7 at home, not #8. BTW, midway has #8 on clearance, if interested.
     
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    True and I refer to the online data frequently.

    But I am still old school and like to be able to reach for a printed manual when at my reloading bench. The computer is in another part of the house
     
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    Yes, and I've found their info to be pretty sparse, comparative to other sources, and pretty conservative WRT max loads (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). But it is helpful to have a book handy. I like Lyman as well, and I always check the powder mfg's data also.
     
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    When starting a new load I usually check one of my books and also check the powder manufacturer web site. If there is a large difference I grab another book and back it up, and decide which way to go.....The 7th and 8th have some significant differences so I wonder about the 9th...
     
  14. Otis is DaMan

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    Easy there Amigo

    I would advise caution there. I know what you mean, and for 115gr in 9mm maybe, but eventually, somewhere else, some other combo, at higher loads someone will get in trouble with that.

    All the manuals say their bullets apply to these loads presented. And, in rifle bullets especialy, the bearing surfaces may be different resulting in different pressures and results. Different profiles resulting in different clearance with rifling and so forth.

    So what I am saying is, that isn't the whole story and I think you need to qualify that statement better, right ??

    As you say later, and better, if you start at the low and work up :)
     
  15. HOWARD J

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    I started over 40 years ago---still got all my fingers & toes---AIN'T THAT SUMPTIN
     
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    Yep, figured there was a new version coming when I snatched the 8th for about $10 a couple months ago.

    Best advice in this thread,
    "It is nice to have a lot of books or manuals" (Howard J)
     
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    I saw the 8th at midways last night for 10 bucks. seemed like a good deal.
     
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