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New Improved Remington .22 'bulk' ammo

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by gbw, Mar 19, 2012.

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  1. gbw

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    Sorry if this has been covered.

    I've long had best results in .22 bulk ammo with Remington, followed not closely by Federal and Winchester bulk, in that order. But they all exhibit failures and variability.

    Went to buy more, now it's Remington 'New, Improved' 225 pack for $10.

    I figger that at 4.4 cents / round, v. 3.3 cents/rd for the older 550 pack at $18. A little over a penny per shot higher.

    I think it IS better ammo. Fired about 200 through several handguns today. No failures and I could not feel any of the usual variability normal with bulk ammo. Accuracy was as good or better than I'm used to, but I didn't study it closely.

    Is is as good as CCI or the higher grade 50 rd./box Remington, Winchester, Federal, ete.? Time will tell. Worth the price increase? To each his own.
     
  2. ColtPythonElite

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    I never had many FTF out of Remington bulk ammo. However, it never proved to be the more accurate of any bulk ammo that I tried in quality rifles. I'll buy the cheap stuff for my pistols, but not for use in rifles when I want tight groups.
     
  3. GWARGHOUL

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    Remington golden bulk was always reliable, but it seems to gum up and dirty up my Winchester 67 and my Marlin 60SS.

    ..Like complete disassemble bath and scrub dirty.
     
  4. Davek1977

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    Remington GB's have been the MOST problematic bulk ammo in nearly any .22 I've shot them in...grossly inconsistent, and not all that reliable. I'm hoping the new ammo realy is an improvement, as I would gladly pay more if the quality justifies it.
     
  5. crestoncowboy

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    I too have gotten the worst results in pretty much all my guns with golden bullets. I recently bought a case of 5500 and out of the first box alone I had about 20 that would not go off, and about 20 more that went off only after I took them out and turned them. I usually buy the Winchester or federal bulk packs. Does the new and i'm improved use the same bullet. I'll try some if I see any.
     
  6. MedWheeler

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    My Rugers (10/22 and Mk-II) have never liked any "bulk" ammo, though the Remington stuff isn't as problematic as the Winchester Super-X stuff. The only stuff I've used that is 100 percent reliable is the CCI Mini-Mags. If the "new and improved" Remington ammo is indeed as good as that, it would definitely be good news.
     
  7. hogshead

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    Seems like all the bulk stuff has some duds but I usually buy it because of price. Speaking of Wal Mart just went up $3 dollars a box on the 55O Win box's and the clerk told me they were not getting any other brand in larger than 100 round box's. And so the madness begins.
     
  8. 22-rimfire

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    Had not seen the Remington 225 count bulk packs yet. Remington has been catching a lot of grief about the quality of their rimfire ammo for the last 5 years. My question is simple.... is this just repackaged golden bullets that come from the same machines as the older bulk packs OR is this truely something new with a higher QA/QC? Advertising vs Reality???
     
  9. Old Dog Man

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    Rem. 22lr Ammo

    I don't know iff it's a true fact or not, but I heard they were using Eley primed cases. What have you heared? Al
     
  10. CraigC
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    Have not seen these new bulk packs either. Noticed a sharp decline in the old 550rd pack's availability. Just bought six at Dick's over the weekend. I'm glad they're coming back repackaged, even if the load is unchanged.This is my favorite bulk .22LR load, of which I typically use 2000-3000rds a month through any of two dozen rifles, pistols and sixguns.
     
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    Like most information on the internet it is repeated mostly by people who have little experience with the issue. I use whatever i can get my hands on. Remington golden bullets have functioned as well as any other.
     
  12. 22-rimfire

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    Well, they don't function on average as well as the Federal bulk pack ammo. But I find the Remingtons fairly accurate overall, so I still shoot them and put up with all the duds.
     
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    They function in more of my guns than Federal. Some don't run on Federal at all.
     
  14. dos0711

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    My Colt Huntsman doesn't like Winchester or Federal...it does like Remington though.
     
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    I've had nothing but problems with Remington's GB 550 bulk pack's in both my 10/22 and Mark II, lots of jams, misfires, & low powder rounds. They worked alright in my Single Six but I still had several low powder issues with it. My best results for 22/LR bulk pack ammo is CCI Blazer, all of my Ruger's like it just fine. I will give Remington another chance and check out the NEW & IMPROVED 225 bulk packs for $10.00 and we'll see if Remington has truly upgraded their GB.
     
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    I hope that it is improved. I have had nothing but terrible luck with Remington golden bulk ammo in both of my 10/22's, yet they fire fine with any other manufacturer! Sometimes it seems like every other shot is a FTF. However the same ammo works fine in my bolt action rifles? Very odd..
     
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    Craig, Did your Dicks have any CCI SV? I guess you know there has been a small price increase.

    With regard to Remington rimfire ammo... I still shoot it and I generally don't have many issues with it except for a few FTF's and an occasional low powered one. But they shoot pretty well (about 3/4" at 50 yds). I just don't shoot them in my semi-auto's.

    Craig you do a lot of rimfire shooting. You shoot more in a month than I do in 3 months on average. My usual outing is 200-300 rounds..
     
  18. SlowFuse

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    I use Rem Golden Bullets exclusively when we are talking bulk ammo. I have to say that I do get a fair share of what seems to be underloaded rounds, however it seems the best from what ive tried in my rifles for just pure plinking. Rarely have a misfire. The worst i'd say is the Winchester "Xpert"... I actually found a roofing nail in the one and ONLY box I bought. Plus it didn't feed in the semis well... Anyways, I stopped by Academy, Walmart and my local gun shop to see if I could spot any of the improved ammo today . None had it, but i'm looking forward to getting my hands on some! Thanks for the heads up!
     
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    The only case failure I've ever had was with GBs; they also are markedly dirtier in my Marlin 60, 25N, 10/22 and Savage FV-SR.

    Damn if my AA G19 kit doesn't eat them like candy, though...
     
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    Remington Cyclone and Thunderbolt ammo cured me permanently from ever buying Rem rimfire of any sort ever again...Federal for plinking with my run of the mill .22s, but my BL-22 gets stingers exclusively.
     
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    Clipper, I have an older model BL-22 and it seems that stingers have a little resistance at the end of the stroke of the lever. Do you experience the same thing? I know that they are a tad longer...
     
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    My older 10/22 fires the bulk Remington just fine. My winchester semi fires the first 100 or so fine and then starts acting up until a good cleaning gets it going again. My Browning Buckmark will absolutely NOT handle the Remington bulk. I swear I can hear the gun start cussing if I load a mag with these bullets and then it proceeds to FTF 3-5 times per mag. Change to CCI and it will fire flawlessly through 200 rounds. As a family we will sometimes fire 3-4,000 rounds of .22 on a nice, cool weekend. 4 people shooting a tube fed Winchester 77 semi, a Remington model 72 pump, 2 10/22's with 10 and 25 round clips, an AK 22 with 10 and 24 round clips, a Buckmark, a Ruger MarkII and a couple of bolt actions with the silencer attached adds up to a lot of ammo. It takes almost a full box of 550 just to load everything up once! I will look for the 225 pack and give it a try in the Buckmark and let you know what I find.
     
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    My experience with Remington Golden Bullets and my Ruger Mark III Hunter is that buying a 550 pack was a great way to train malfunction drills.

    But I'm entirely open to the possibility that Remington could improve the product.
     
  24. mongo4567

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    About 3 years ago, I had several bulk packs of Remington in a row that were horrible. I would never make 50 rounds without a misfire...it was more like 20 or 30 if I remember right. Plus I have a Spikes Tactical AR conversion that won't chamber the Remington. I switched to Federal and have been happy, it is also cleaner. I tried a couple bulk packs of recent mfg Remington when ammo was scarce and it was much, much better.
     
  25. FROGO207

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    Well if most of you like the Rem Golden bullets then I will have my pick of all the others won't I?:D Around these parts the only .22 ammo on the shelves were the Golden crud when the shortages hit. The sales people said they were not selling any of it to speak of at that time.That says something about what we shoot around here.:cool: IMHO any ammo can have problems but in my experience a 25%+ failure rate when used in all of my 20 rimfire firearms of many types/brands as opposed to other brands is a good indication of poor quality.:mad: I also will return to the store after a while and get some to try again when I hear you all are getting better results with it for an extended period.
     
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