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NEW line of Scopes - OSPREY INTERNATIONAL

Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by INSANECANE, Jun 2, 2008.

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  1. INSANECANE

    INSANECANE Member

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    Hi all,

    We recently bought into a brand new line of scopes by Osprey International. These things are AWESOME! Here's a little bit of info on them.....

    Rings and flip up lense caps are included with all scopes. Made by OSPREY INTERNATIONAL, and backed by a no B.S. full lifetime warranty. :D

    • -Each modle is entirely unique and custom to Osprey
    • -Built in the only US owned and managed facility in China.
    • -Only Chinese 'labor' is utilized, not chinese parts.
    • -Imported 3M two-part epoxies used un all bonding applications
    • -Imported hermetic grease used for superior waterproof and fog-proof performance
    • -Optical components imported from Hoya of Japan for image quality higher than anything available in China
    • -100% (not 85 or 90% like with the competition) of the units are fully inspected to ensure quality
    • -Recoil tesed at 50BMG parameters
    • -Waterproof tested at 25cm/40 degrees C for 3 minutes
    • -Fog-proof tested at -20 degrees C for 30 minutes and removed to ambient (must be completely clear in 2 minutes to pass inspection
    • -Each scope is 'spin-centered' tested before leaving the factory
    • -Each scope has dual glass lenses
    • -Inside of each body tube is specially treated w/ antireflective paint and several light stops added to reduce internal reflections and provide a high-contrast image.
    Here is a pic of one of them.

    [​IMG]


    NOW is the time to get one or two......
    SCOPES.............. Description.................................................................................................. MSRP...... Our Price
    DSMD.................. Multi dot holographic sight............................................................................64.95..........54.95
    DSMR................... Multi reticle holographic sight........................................................................64.95..........54.95
    CP394215............ Compact Illuminated Rubber AR - Flat top 3-9x42.........................................149.95........119.95
    CPAR394215........ Compact Illuminated Rubber AR - Carry Handle 3-9x42.................................149.95........119.95
    SD31250IMD........ Standard 3-12x50 (I) Illuminated (MD) Mildot reticle 30mm tube - Black..........139.95........111.95
    SDS31250IMD....... Standard 3-12x50 (I) Illuminated (MD) Mildot reticle 30mm tube - Silver..........139.95........111.95
    SD31250IRF.......... Standard 3-12x50 (I) Illuminated (RF) Range finder reticle 30mm tube - Black..144.95.........115.95
    SD432DP.............. Standard 4x32 (DP) Duplex reticle 1 tube - Black.............................................49.95.........39.95
    SD31256IS............ Standard 3-12x50 (I) Illuminated (S) Sniper reticle 1 tube - Black....................129.95........103.95
    SD3940IS.............. Standard 3-9x40 (I) Illuminated (S) Sniper reticle 1 tube - Black..................... 129.95.........103.95
    SDS3940IS............ Standard 3-9x40 (I) Illuminated (S) Sniper reticle 1 tube - Silver.....................134.95.........107.95
    TA251040IMD....... Tactical 2.5-10x40 (I) Illuminated (MD) Mildot reticle 30mm tube - Black.........179.95.........143.95
    TA4165IMD.......... Tactical 4-16x50 (I) Illuminated (MD) Mildot reticle 30mm tube - Black........... 179.95.........143.95
    TA62450IMD........ Tactical 6-24x50 (I) Illuminated (MD) Mildot reticle 30mm tube - Black............189.95.........151.95
    TA62450IRF......... Tactical 6-24x50 (I) Illuminated (RF) Range finder reticle 30mm tube - Black....199.95.........158.95
    TA104050IRF........ Tactical 10-40x50 (I) Illuminated (RF) Range finder reticle 30mm tube - Black..249.95.........199.96
    PS2732S............... Pistol Scope 2-7x32 (S) Sniper reticle 1 tube - Black........................................79.95...........63.95
    PS432S................. Pistol Scope 4x32 (S) Sniper reticle 1 tube - Black............................................79.95..........63.95

    MOUNTS.............. Description.................................................................................................. MSRP...... Our Price
    M-AR.................. Carry Handle Mount for AR-15...................................................................... 16.95.......12.95
    M-PTR................ AR-15 Tri Rail.............................................................................................. 19.95........15.95
    M-AK................. AK Tri Rail................................................................................................... 19.95........15.95
    M-SKS................. SKS Tri Rail.................................................................................................. 19.95........15.95
    M-PS................... Rail Mount for Pistols................................................................................... 19.95........15.95


    Contact us for more info or pics. I hope to have pics of each up on our site in the next day or two.

    Thanks for looking,
     
  2. dgsamsoil

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    I have seen these twice now, both at the NRA convention in Louisville and at the last Indy 1500 show. The guys say they are affiliated with AimSHOT, divison of Prestige Law Enforcement, Inc. out of Georgia.

    The specs they were professing are exactly as listed above, and seem to be impressive at that price point.

    Although I've tried and tried, I've never found a "bargain" on a scope, and have come to believe that in optics more so than anything else, you typically get what you pay for. But these scopes looked to be well built and are certainly packaged nicely.

    I was unable to really get a feel for them at either show as they were not mounted to anything, nor did I have anything to compare to. They guys at the Indy 1500 (different guys from the NRA convention) also had some NC Star scopes they were liquidating to make room for these. I couldn't help notice some STRONG similarities in the scope housing in a couple of models.

    If I recall correctly, the "Tactical" models have 1/8 MOA adjustments, while the others had 1/4. Quite a few had 30mm tubes. They are certainly priced attractively for the features.

    Does anyone have any actual hands on experience with one and if so, what are your thoughts? If possible, please compare with something.


    Thanks,

    DG
     
  3. carrottop432

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    I bought one at the last gun show in my area just to give it a whirl and I have to say that I'm impressed so far. My 45-70 killed the BSA 3-9x40 that was on it, so I replaced it with the Osprey 4-16x50 and fired 20 rounds with it. I then purchased an Armalite AR-50 (which fires the BMG) and didn't have a scope for it, so I threw the Osprey on top and have fired 15 rounds so far and she's still working fine. My only complaint is that the knobs to adjust the scope don't always want to work. Usually pecking on them prior to turning them seems to do the trick. The illuminated reticle is SWEET! I'm going to purchase the 10-40x50 soon!
     
  4. elffir

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    Osprey 4x32

    I was skeptical mainly due to the price for what they promise, but I'm more than satisfied. I figured I would buy the 4x32 and mount it on my Ruger 10/22 - ordered from Insanecanes off of Gun Broker for $35, which included rings and shipping. The rings are cheap, but I didn't expect much. Optics are clear, turrets are crisp, overall very solid feel. It did fine on the 10/22 - so I mounted it on my Colt 9mm AR, which I'll try this weekend. I wanted to try it out before I decide if I want to take a chance on a more expensive model. So far I'd say it's hard to beat it when one considers the price for the features...that's not considering free rings and free shipping.
     
  5. usp_fan

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    Um, anyone else find it odd that all the comments concerning these scopes are from brand new members? I kinda feel like I'm being marketed to.
     
  6. elffir

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    Osprey and new member

    Yes I'm a new member, but I've been reading posts in THR for many months. I come here to look for reviews and other info. That's all. I work for a bank, not a scope manufacturer.
     
  7. Bear2000

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    I too find it interesting, usp_fan.
     
  8. hunttheevil

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    I looked around the web today, and found one person (the market doesn't seem to be flooded yet) who bought one of these scopes and said it was excellent for the price. I'll bite. I ordered the 4-16x50 Tactical. I'll give ya'll the dirt when it get's here.:evil:
     
  9. mdThanatos

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    I am somewhat curious as to how reliable these scopes are, especially the pistol scopes as I am a fan of the scout setups. What kind of recoil can they handle?
     
  10. Neckshot5seven

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    Only thing about China stuff is Yea its cheap, and no one is accountable for their quality control. If you buy a lemon then it usually gets replaced with another lemon. That is until the lemon tree stops bearing fruit.
     
  11. hunttheevil

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    I received said scope today. It come packages with rings as advertised. I mounted it on my DPMS LR308-AP4. I will have to say the glass looks good. Better than my Nikon Protaff and dang near as good as my Leupold VX-III.

    The range report is gonna be a ways out. Fay just left here and everything is under water. I don't have anywhere close by to shoot, so i'm going out with the girls tonight. And i'm going to Philly next weekend.:banghead:

    Hopefully this week I can slip off and put some rounds downrange, if not it will be next week. I'm excited, I hope it performs as well as it looks.
     
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  12. Daniel Boon

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    Osprey

    I bought a 6x24 scope 3 months ago and took it out to the range; the elevation cap popped off and that was the end of the scope; but I took it back when the next show came along and the vendor gave me a new scope with no problem. the eye relief could be better. its not as good as a Leupold as claimed by the vendor. they are in my opinion "better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick" but not by much.
     
  13. CoGunNut

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    Osprey International, yeah, buy something else

    Let another New Member make a posting about Osprey, This time, not so gushy and supportive.

    I have a problem which is, honestly, 90% my fault. However :

    I purchased one of their 6-24x50 scopes this weekend at a gunshow.

    Normally, I'm a better consumer, but for some idiotic reason, I forewent my normal pissy customer routine.

    After looking through the scope on display, I figured it was worth the $$, so I plopped down the requisite cash and was handed a brand new scope from the stack on the table (not the display scope. . .mistake #2 (Mistake #1 will be explained later)).

    I was a vendor at the same show, so I didn't get a chance to even look at the scope until the show was over on Sunday. (Mistake #3).

    However, when I went home, I found three problems with the scope I was given.

    Problem #1 was a tiny bit of rubber O-ring hanging from the seam on the objective lens.

    Problem #2 was a problem focusing the reticle. I couldn't screw the ocular lens down tight enough to bring the reticle into focus. (and I have 20/20 vision, so that's not the problem).

    Problem #3 is the general focus of the scope, I can't get the scope to focus . . .at all.

    Now, on to the REAL problem with Osprey International/Prestige Law Enforcement.

    I attempted to contact them this morning to see if there was a warranty.

    I spoke with a young lady named Q***** (full name removed due to snottiness), who wouldn't even allow me to explain the problem.

    The first thing right out of her mouth was "Do you have the receipt?"

    Not "What's the problem?" or even a question about the scope, but "Do you have a receipt?"

    I explained that I did not (Mistake #4) and told her where I bought the scope.

    I was immediately given a phone number of an Osprey dealer out of Washington.

    Okay. . .I'm in Colorado and explained that to her.

    Her response was "they probably did the show."

    After several more attempts, I got her to finally admit that the scopes have a "Lifetime" warranty, but ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE RECEIPT.

    I was advised that this was "STANDARD POLICY."

    Interestingly enough, there is no mention of the warranty or requirment for the receipt for warranty work included in the packaging.

    So, until I can track down the dealer (which doesn't seem to be a regular stocking dealer for Osprey International. . .or at least that's what I'm expecting to be told by Osprey/Prestige Law Enforcement), I'm stuck with a non-functioning piece of glass, glue and metal.

    Osprey International / Prestige Law Enforcement's Customer Service is HORRIBLE. Do not expect to get anywhere with them.

    They do not want to hear the problems with the scopes.

    They obviously do not support their customers.

    They do not include any warranty information on their scopes.

    And, it appears they do not have a Code of Conduct for their dealers.

    So, take a risk by buying your Osprey International Scope. You had better laminate the receipt (if you get one) and store it in your Safe-Deposit Box, just in case you ever need any warranty work.

    Otherwise, don't bother. Spend your money on another brand.

    J

    Notes : Mistake #1 was not researching the scope before I bought it. I paid almost twice what can be found on the web.

    Yes, I will be contacting the Gun Show Promoters to find the names of the people who rented the booth. I will be contacting them forthrightly.

    I also will be contacting both the Colorado and Georgia State Attorneys General to see if I can register a formal complaint and see if any particular laws on warranties and or Lemon Laws were violated.

    I will also be posting this information on my experience with Osprey International / Prestige Law Enforcement on every site where I find anyone supporting their scopes. I feel it's my duty to notify other potential customers of these anti-consumer policies.

    :banghead:
     
  14. havoc7usmc

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    OSPREY JUNK:cuss:

    I made the mistake of buying an Osprey, it's like the Barska....JUNK.
    I also think that some one was polluting this tread with a bogus report on the the optic in question. It's disappointing to have some one use a cheap advertising gimmick on a forum for honest people to who seek honest answers.
     
  15. presidents_topgun

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    New Scope

    I bought one of those 12 x 40 x 50mm scopes. The package was missing one allen hex wrench and the owners instruction manual/warranty. I called the rep 4 times and finally made contact. They have yet to ship me the tool, owners manual and warranty. The objective lens is not a true 50mm. It's more like a 42mm lens. The light draw is low and can't compare to my Bushnell Banner 50mm scope. The cross hair reticle is too small and is hard to see even in good light conditions. I do enjoy the higher powered optics though. The mounts that come with the unit are too high for my personal liking. Options are limited since the tube is mm and not SAE 1 inch. As far as a strong unit, it seems to stand up to heavy recoil. I do like the red/green reticle option. If I had it to do over again, I wouldn't buy the scope. As far as reliable service, you read what I posted about the warranty and wrench. I'm going to assume service is also lacking.

    Reagards, Presidents_topgun:
     
  16. presidents_topgun

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    I put the V-42 scope to the test yesterday (in field test) and it failed miserably! It was near dark with snow on the ground. The light grabbing abilities were equal to that of Weaver B-4 scope. It is not practical for much of anything especially tactial use. My best advise is spent your money on a more quality scope (for less money). Their service (warranty) has proven to me that they are not willing to stand behind their product and the warranty is not worth the paper it is written on.
     
  17. dixierifleman

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    I have the 10-40x tactical Illuminated reticle on my AR. I like it so far. One of the adjustment knobs came loose, and it took a small allen wrench to put it back on. Other than that, great power, and holds true.

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  18. BADUNAME37

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    I would not

    purchase ANY scope made in CHINA!:barf::mad::scrutiny:

    A scope is something that, I firmly believe, you get what you pay for!;)

    Leupold for me, or open sights.:)

    PERIOD

    End of lesson.
     
  19. FredlyFX

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    Not too happy with it

    I bought a 2-7x variable pistol scope at the last Orange County gun show. I was looking for an inexpensive scope to put on a plinking pistol. I did not care about dropping big bucks for name brands.

    I mounted the scope on my Beretta U22 pistol and took it to the indoor range. The optics seemed ok in my limited scope experience.

    The scope was shooting a decent group about 2" low and an inch to the left of point of aim. I then spent the next hour trying to get it to move until I had the adjustment knobs turned until they stopped, but still had that same group in the same spot, but now it was up to over 100 rounds.

    This is the first scope I have ever mounted, so there is definetly something I could have done wrong, but I don't think so. I am very unimpressed so far. Now I have to try to track down my reciept and find the dealer. Usually I keep track of stuff better than I did this time, so I may be out.

    I guess I need to quit being so cheap and buy a real scope.

    FredlyFX
    http://fredlyfx.com
     
  20. TJ_75

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    Contact info

    I too was told at a show that I attended that these have a "No BS complete lifetime warranty" if ANYTHING goes wrong with them, just contact them and they will replace it no questions asked. I was told nothing about having to have or produce a receipt for the purchase for warranty work/replacement.
    For those of you that are having or have had problems with your scopes, here is Osprey's contact info:

    http://www.osprey-optics.com/
    phone: 770-387-2751
    fax: 770-387-0114

    The owner's name was Keith Oliver.

    Also in doing some research online, I came across this:
    I hope this information will be helpful!

    Good luck.
     
  21. lipadj46

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    Until it's been proven otherwise the Chinese are incapable of the quality control needed to produce a reliable scope. I don't care how good the components are or who is running the plant it's just the way it is. I am sure if a company was willing to pay for it it could be done but then why not just go to the Philippines or Japan where they can do it. In optics you go to China for one reason dirt cheap labor and no regulations and to spit out product in large quantities not for a quality end product. I think the only way a company can come close to doing it if the scopes were partially manufactured in China then finished somewhere else and even then companies seem to have problems doing it.
     
  22. MGD 45

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    That's funny! The original post looked EXACTLY like an add posted by someone with the company!! I ran across a vender selling this at a gun show in Macon, Ga. The salesman gave the "speech" on how great the scope was made and how "tactical" it was.

    I asked him if the reticle was in the first focal plane or second.........he just looked at me with a blank stare and said, "honestly sir, I don't know" I have to give him props for being honest & not blowing smoke up my azz, but they still seemed like a cheap Chinese clone scope.
     
  23. taliv

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    the osprey nightvision stuff i had was made in russia. for the money, it worked surprisingly well. however... i had very few opportunities to actually shoot it, since most ranges close before dark.
     
  24. leahcim

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    New user with Osprey problems

    Some issues here are familar.

    I bought a 4x16x50 at a gun show and was told about the 'life-time warranty' No problem 'cause I have the receipt.

    I mounted the scope with their rings on my Armalight M15. I used a laser bore-sighter, at night ~50 yards, to get in the ballpark before I went to the range (100 yds). So far so good.

    Went to the range to try and get zeroed. Begin shooting and adjusting from the sights null/zero--center position on W/E knobs. I just cannot get the Windage to bring the hit-point to the left and have turned the Elevation all the way to the stop (UP) to get on the bull. More shoot/adjust.... the Windage knob falls off after about 40 rounds. Grrrrr.

    I look at the windage barrel and there are ~3 sets of scores on the barrel where the set screws have been tightened trying to keep the knob on. Next day I call the number on the receipt and explain the problem. I was asked, "Do you have the receipt?"
    "Why, yes I do."
    "Okay, send it back and we will look at it."

    I tell them I would like to have a replacement because I believe the knob will continue to fall off. I am asked to put the information in a note when I send it.

    I UPS the scope, and a letter of explanation, back to them and it was received. I call them 8 business days later and ask for an update. I was told it was on the service managers desk (he had been 'away') and they would send me a new scope. They do.

    The new scope arrives. I mount it with their rings and take it to the indoor 25. I get fair grouping but again the W/E adjustments seem inconsistent. (I also order a laRue 1.83" ht extended eye-relief mount)

    Take the rifle to the 100yd and begin shoot/adjust (I am using a 'Nail Driver' shooting bag). Again, I have the W/E almost to the stops to get in to the bull. The adjustment L/R and U/D do not seem to have a consistent change on the hit point. Also, the windage knob is coming a bit loose--I have tightened the set-screws.

    The LaRue arrived today and I mounted the scope. Again, using the laser bore-sight ~50 yards, I try to get in the ballpark. The adjustments do not seem to have an effect.

    I will try to get to the range this weekend and see what happens. I will update with the results.

    L
     
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  25. SgtMajor

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    Hello LEAHCIM... I just took delivery (from Sportsmansguide) of an Osprey Tactical Scope..... So far 50 rounds in .308) things look good.
    However, since it is a fairly new company & obviousley has/is going/gone through startup problems I & I'm sure others would like to know your contact information. Please tell us your contact information for the return transaction..... Thanks.....
     
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