New NAA model "Rule 1" Lipsey exclusive

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So I just stumbled across what looks to me like a new NAA model of their little pocket revolvers on Lipsey's website and I was wondering if anyone has any further information.

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I am already a huge fan of the Hamre Forge grips, and what they have designed for NAA here looks like it might actually make the little guy handle half decently in a tight spot. The clip looks like it's in a good spot too.

What has really caught my eye though is that cylinder pin. I wonder if it just has more serrations on it or if it is going to function a little bit differently than their others.

Anyway I was just wondering if anyone out there has any more information on this guy.
 
Either TTAG or TFB had a short write up about Lipsey‘s latest offerings being showcased at SHOT. The article touched on this little piece.

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Looks like too much gun, for too small a round, also rimfire + single action only... There comes a point where an NAA makes no sense as a practical carry gun, when there are much much better pocket carry options in the same size category that can hold 7 rounds of 380, or 8 rounds of 32 with a double action trigger.
 
There are 3 basic NAA revolver designs. The classic which you completely remove the cylinder to reload. The SideWinder that has a swing out cylinder. The Ranger that is a top break revolver.

Most all of NAA different models are variations of the "remove the cylinder to reload" design with different frame sizes (.22 short, .22lr, 22 WMR), different handles, different barrels and different adornments. The Lipsey NAA revolver looks like just another NAA revolver with nothing very special about it.

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The NAA revolvers are smaller than my P32. I can handle the .22 wmr frame size pretty well with my long hands. The Grip on the small grip .22lr is too small for me to shoot well. I have never tried the .22 short NAA revolver which is even smaller than the .22lr shown above. They aren't my first choice for a carry weapon but they are better than a sharp stick when everything else is too big.
 
I like the NAA stuff well also, except for the 22 short version, that is just too small for me.

For me, the 22mag with snake shot in it is a useful tool and does something (shoot shot) that the little autos won't do.

The large 22 mag frame is just about right in my mind to be useful and reasonably powerful. They are also well made and more enjoyable to me than plastic.
 
So I just stumbled across what looks to me like a new NAA model of their little pocket revolvers on Lipsey's website and I was wondering if anyone has any further information.

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The front of that gun looks like it will snag on anything and everything.

I can see using the clip to hold it on a pocket or waste band, then you go to draw in a hurry and the gun doesn’t come out in a hurry.
 
So I just stumbled across what looks to me like a new NAA model of their little pocket revolvers on Lipsey's website and I was wondering if anyone has any further information.

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I am already a huge fan of the Hamre Forge grips, and what they have designed for NAA here looks like it might actually make the little guy handle half decently in a tight spot. The clip looks like it's in a good spot too.

What has really caught my eye though is that cylinder pin. I wonder if it just has more serrations on it or if it is going to function a little bit differently than their others.

Anyway I was just wondering if anyone out there has any more information on this guy.
that Rule 1 looks an awful lot like their old "Bug out" and Bug out II" limited runs. Just a change on the grips. That style of cylinder release and cylinder frame window I have seen on the old NAA Sheriff model. Did some reading up on the Bug Outs a year or so back and there was some complaints that with that particular style of cylinder pin release, some people reported that it was being activated while drawing from the pocket with the cylinder pin partly removed on the draw.

Never tried a Bug Out model, so take what i type with a grain of salt.
 
that Rule 1 looks an awful lot like their old "Bug out" and Bug out II" limited runs. Just a change on the grips. That style of cylinder release and cylinder frame window I have seen on the old NAA Sheriff model. Did some reading up on the Bug Outs a year or so back and there was some complaints that with that particular style of cylinder pin release, some people reported that it was being activated while drawing from the pocket with the cylinder pin partly removed on the draw.

Never tried a Bug Out model, so take what i type with a grain of salt.
Thank you for that info, with it I was able to find a thorough review of the Bug 2 model which gave me the information I was looking for.

I really like that Hamre Forge grip, and honestly want to try it out on the Ranger II as those grips look the most functional of all grips I have seen for any of the NAA revolvers. However since Hamre Forge states the following on their website

"DISCLAIMER: Due to differing frame tolerances, some grips may fit slightly looser than others. Additionally, we have not tested these grips on NAA's break action models and we are unsure of their viability on those particular models"

I do not have high hopes that that combination is a good idea. I was hoping that this "Rule 1" model might be an interesting middle ground between their sidewinder and standard pin removal revolvers, but I just couldn't tell from the photos I found of it.

The Bug 2 review I found here


Has enough information to rule it out entirely.

Looks like if I do decide to give an NAA revolver with Hamre Forge grip a shot my best bet would be to pair those grips with one of the sidewinder models.
 
I really like the top break Ranger II.
PSA had a one day flash sale on the 2.5” version for $199.99 - less than half price I paid for the standard model.
But they are just fun range & plinker toys to me, notfor carrying.



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I would pick up a Ranger II (break top) for $199 in a second. Usually they go for more than $400 even when on sale.

Great buy on a cool pistol!
 
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I'm adding a HAMRE grip to a NAA 22S. Why do I have a 22S, it was so cute. Hard to hit much with it, see if the grip makes a difference. Not a serious gun for primary EDC, just a really small BUG.
 
I'm adding a HAMRE grip to a NAA 22S. Why do I have a 22S, it was so cute. Hard to hit much with it, see if the grip makes a difference. Not a serious gun for primary EDC, just a really small BUG.
Got the grips and put them on the gun. They are pretty neat and give a firm grip. So is 5 enough in 22S. During the Civil War to 1880s, SW sold 250K number 1s.
 
There comes a point where an NAA makes no sense as a practical carry gun,

A friend and I were shooting one of my NAA’s a few weeks ago and I made a comment about the poor accuracy in comparison to everything else we were playing with, when he said, “You gotta remember, these things are for up close. This one should probably be stuck in their mouth first though.” :)
 
It ain't very attractive. I do like the standard NAA mini revolvers though. They are decent little guns. I used to practice with one some, and I got to where I could hit a coke can at 10 paces with it.
 
I own several different NAA mini revolvers in different styles. Like the folding grip that covers trigger. Put them on the ones I shoot and carry around home. With sights and grips you can hold the little guns are actually more accurate than I would have believed. They make some interesting little guns, I enjoy playing with them.
 
this new lipsey naa apparently uses the frame and cylinder pin of the discontinued naa bugout, which is by far the best of the naa mini revolvers and is certainly the easiest cylinder pin to manipulate, based on my own money and experience. i have owned the black widow and standard revolvers. the former is gone and the latter is occasionally on me with a folding grip.

i.m.e. the real bite of 22wmr out of any naa revolver isn’t worth its distracting flashbang bark. 22lr is my strong suggestion here. lipsey should offer its new naa in 22lr, which would then make it an excellent deep ccw.

here is my naa bugout1 22lr with its oem rubber (ok) and cv revision (better) grips. i have put about trouble-free 600 rounds through it. indeed humble and untactical but it works way better than desperate pleas for mercy.


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Cute little wheelies.

Having grown up learning to handle SA Ruger revolvers, a SA mini was just an exercise in accommodation adapting my manipulative skills to the really diminutive NAA's.

That said, I thought of them as "Onion Field" last-ditch, hide out weapons of absolutely last resort ... and fun plinking .22's.

My concern has been that if a hammer is exposed to anything that can exert friction against it, what if it may be pushed back/retracted enough to free the hammer nose from a safety notch (like inside a front pocket with the body's activities pushing against the exposed hammer spur). Then, if the cylinder rotates enough to bring the hammer into contact with the rim of the rim-fire ammunition, and then if sufficient force involving the hammer occurs for whatever unexpected reason?

For those instances where I've sometimes tucked a .22LR or MAG into a front jeans pocket, inside a leather or nylon holster, it's been deep enough in the pocket that the hammer ought not have been high enough for any body motions near the top of the pocket (closer to the fold in the groin/hip) to hopefully cause any force against the little SA revolver. I'd have to wonder about a fully exposed hammer spur and any forces/friction occurring inside a front pocket.

Admittedly, one of the things that makes me cautious has nothing to do with a mini revolver/derringer, but involved a couple different clipped folders with a spring assisted opening feature and activation studs sticking out the spine of the handles. Both had been clipped inside a front pocket (one in jeans and the other in a BDU-type pants front pocket). Both of them had enough pressure exerted against the rear opening stud of the closed folders to cause the blades to open and the spring-assist try to do its thing. One opened more than half way and luckily just perforated a fold in the pocket's cloth without reaching tender skin. The other opened enough so the tip-up blade easily entered my hand when I reached inside the pocket. That one required stitches. I stopped buy spring-assisted folders, and if i carry one of the ones I own, I either put it in a pocket slip sheath or in a jacket pocket (where it's not against my body).

Different preferences and different strokes, folks. You just gotta suit yourselves. ;)
 
I agree about the 22 mag, I have the cylinder but keep 22 LR in the gun. Lack some 'stopping power' - LOL but that's OK. The mags are quite the boomer! Like me.

Same btw, with 327 mag vs 32 HR mag - the former is a beast.
 
The cylinders have a notch between the chambers. With firing pin resting in the notch it is between chambers. When the hammer is cocked the firing pin on hammer aligns with a chamber. Nothing is 100% fool proof but this works.
 
Looks like too much gun, for too small a round, also rimfire + single action only... There comes a point where an NAA makes no sense as a practical carry gun, when there are much much better pocket carry options in the same size category that can hold 7 rounds of 380, or 8 rounds of 32 with a double action trigger.
I understand what they're doing with this and it's to make the grips bigger and easier to shoot. If they're going to make the grips the size of one that'd be seen on a double action then NAA should just make a double action.
 
Got the grips and put them on the gun. They are pretty neat and give a firm grip. So is 5 enough in 22S. During the Civil War to 1880s, SW sold 250K number 1s.
Pics please!
 
this new lipsey naa apparently uses the frame and cylinder pin of the discontinued naa bugout, which is by far the best of the naa mini revolvers and is certainly the easiest cylinder pin to manipulate, based on my own money and experience. i have owned the black widow and standard revolvers. the former is gone and the latter is occasionally on me with a folding grip.

i.m.e. the real bite of 22wmr out of any naa revolver isn’t worth its distracting flashbang bark. 22lr is my strong suggestion here. lipsey should offer its new naa in 22lr, which would then make it an excellent deep ccw.

here is my naa bugout1 22lr with its oem rubber (ok) and cv revision (better) grips. i have put about trouble-free 600 rounds through it. indeed humble and untactical but it works way better than desperate pleas for mercy.


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I agree on the .22 Mag not being ideal given the bang. Yes, it penetrates very well and has expanding bullets for handguns now, but I doubt it is that much better. Plus, the size of them is huge in comparison to the Short and LR NAA.

Which about those, I would like to see more attention given to the Short and LR models not just in better grips, but models with better sights on them. The fixed sights on the standard models are too low and not adjustable so with the short sight radius I have to aim way off target to hit it.

There's no reason only the larger frame .22 Mag NAAs should only get this support, the smaller frames should to even if then do increase the size some. It's a worthy trade off as they'll still be far smaller than the mags.
 
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