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New No4 MKII's...consecutive serial numbers

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Mustang51, Jun 11, 2013.

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  1. Mustang51

    Mustang51 Member

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    I just glommed a pair of No4 MKII's at an on-line auction...one still in the wrap, one out. They are supposed to be consecutive serial numbers.

    "UF 55's"


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    Hope the wife doesn't find out...
     
  2. Ignition Override

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    They are too purdy to take shooting.

    A friend has one (coated in the cosmoline bag wrap) in his large, armored gun vault, and will never clean it or consider using it.
     
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  3. stubbicatt

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    Sa-weet! Man, I wish I could find something like that.
     
  4. Slamfire

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    I would recommend leaving the one in the wrap, in the wrap. Those came into the US from Ireland in the 90's and the ones in the wrap sold for a premium. I expect being still in the wrap, it is worth several times an unwrapped one to a collector.
     
  5. Sergei Mosin

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    The UF55 rifles did not come from Ireland. They were most likely an RAF make-work order prior to the end of Enfield production in the UK and the sale of the Fazakerley machinery to Pakistan. Nice rifles, I have one myself.

    The Irish contract rifles were built earlier and fall in serial number range PF 309348 to PF 359347. There were a number of different foreign contracts for No4 Mk2 rifles in the 1950s and just looking at the rifle's general appearance is not enough to tell where it came from - one must know the serial number.
     
  6. TIMC

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    Awesome rifles, what a nice find!

    I love my MK4 #2, mine is an early version. I have read they did not start production until 1949 but mine has a date of 09/48 and a S/N of PF380XX which is too low a number and too early of a date for the info I have found but it is marked MK4 No. II. all I know is it is the nicest shooting of all my surplus rifles.

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  7. Curator

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    TIMC

    Did you do the "conversion" to "T" configuration? I have a similar Mk2 that supposedly came from India with the MkII scope and mounting. Research says no Mk2 rifles were ever made in "T" configuration.
     
  8. TIMC

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    Yes it is a conversion done with a repro scope from Numrich. The conversion came out great an the rifle is very accurate.
     
  9. Mustang51

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    Thanks, guys

    The plan is to keep the wrapped one wrapped.

    Nice T, TIMC...how do you like the Numerich mount?
     
  10. TIMC

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    The mount fit like a glove and the scope has very clear lenses. The one disappointing thing was that it did not come with screws for the mount. once mounted I had to add a small shim under the front ring to keep the reticle centered in the scope vertically and had to do a little grinding on the mount to center it left and right. I did think it was a bit pricey but it came out very nice. I believe they are made in South Korea and they say they are done to original specs. If you go with this mount on the MK4 you will have to remove the rear sight for it to fit.
     
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  11. 1KPerDay

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    WOW. Jealous.
     
  12. Mustang51

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    My pair of Enfields arrived at my FFL today and it looks like everything is as advertised. Consecutive serial numbers, one in the wrap and one out and cleaned up, but not fired. Was able to snap a few pics at my FFL's before they went into the safe.

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    Better pics after the 10 day "cooling off" period.
     
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    "Cooling off"?
     
  15. Mustang51

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    Yeah...10 day waiting period.

    Used to be 3 days for handguns only and was referred to as a "3 day cooling off period"..to prevent someone from having a beef with his neighbor and running down to the gun store and buying a gun to settle matters.

    Now it is 10 days for everything.
     
  16. Jaymo

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    Paid $234 for one in 1994, and $199 for another in 1995. One still wrapped. Other has been a fantastic shooter.
    What do they go for now?
    Just curious. I don't want to sell. Just wondering how much insurance I need.
     
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    Ten days. Well, if somebody still wanted to hurt somebody after five days, they would be willing to wait ten days.
    And they can't sneak up on somebody by concealing a large rifle too easily...they would already have a handgun.

    Those ignorant politicians never cease to amaze me.
     
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    What can I say, IO...this is California
     
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    Jaymo, by my calculations, you paid $433 for your pair. I got mine for a little less than twice that...and feel like I got a great deal.

    Empirearms sold a consecutive pair, one in and one out of the wrap, in January 2010 for $1650.

    http://www.empirearms.com/010510.htm

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    I've heard of, but can't document, a more recent sale for $2200.

    Looks like you are sitting pretty...
     
  20. Jaymo

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    Clough, cough. Ouch. $1650-$2200. That's a chunk.
    I'm a big fan of the Smelly, but never imagined them going for that much.
    Then again, they don't make them anymore, so getting unfired ones is getting harder.
    I'd better shoot both of them a bunch to lower the value back to a more reasonable level. ;)

    The one I've shot is a great shooter. Likes Hornady and Winchester ammo.
    Remington ammo grouped like a buckshot pattern at equivalent range.

    Easily my favorite bolt action military rifle.
    Lays the smackdown on deer and hogs, too.
     
  21. Mustang51

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    Yeah, I'd have a hard time swallowing either of those amounts. I thought two for $850 was a much better deal.
     
  22. 50 Shooter

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    Leave the one in the wrapper and shoot the other one, you have to be able to enjoy your toys and not just stare at them.
     
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    The cooling off period makes me angry.
     
  24. Mustang51

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    Me too!
     
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    That makes me furious with jealousy. Someone point me in the direction of the next deal like this, please! :)
     
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