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New production Rem 870

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by ohihunter2014, Aug 25, 2019.

  1. ohihunter2014

    ohihunter2014 Member

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    Are the new 870 junk since Remington has had a ton of problems? Looks like Walmart is clearance them and my Mossberg 500 doesn’t fit well for wing shooting. I know the older ones were great but I hear a lot of Remington negativity.
     
  2. Palolosj

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    For Walmart clearance price I would buy one if I needed a shotgun. I heard the new ones don't rust like the one I owned in late 1990s.
     
  3. entropy

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    While it won't be of the quality an 870 made before the 1990's would be, a current one from Walmart will be entirely serviceable. The ones on clearance now are on clearance for two reasons: One, it's inventory time, and two- the gun display mods have changed, and room must be made.
     
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  4. PapaG

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    Wingmaster or Express. World of difference in fit and finish. Either will perform fine. My family's 870s are all from an earlier period, except for one express, and from what I've seen the newer ones have plainer wood but fine blueing and seem plenty slick in operation.
     
  5. Robbins290

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    Said this on one of the other threads. Yes, they are not good as they were. But i am picking up another one today from walmart. I can bet money on that it has to go back to remington for repair. For the price. its worth it.
     
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  6. Virginian

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    To me the new ones are good. The Wingmasters have never had a problem, and the new Expresses have a much nicer finish.
     
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  7. Robbins290

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    I had 3 in the past few years. All 3 had to go back for defective barrels. Hope the 4th today is good to go.
     
  8. PapaG

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    Defective barrels? In what way? WM or Express?
    thanks.
     
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    2 expresses (both 20 gauge) and one tactical magnum 12 gauge. (or what ever it is called). Each one had over size bored and the spend shells would stick inside the chamber. 3 out of 3. Picking up a forth tonight. express with 28" barrel 12 gauge.
     
  10. Robbins290

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    Fourth 870 ran flawless. Fit and finish seem to be the same as the past express models. Tho i noticed more plastic then the older models.
     
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  11. Sappyg2.0

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    I have 2 recent 20 gage 870 express guns. Both were stiff at 1st as expected.

    The older new 870 (4 years old?) has been an absolute gem. The 2nd (2 years old) has jumped the bolt (i dont know any other way to discribe this) and locked up twice. Kinda sucks as you have to strip the gun down to get back in the game. I'm not sure exactly what is causing this but it has something to do with the slide bars and the bolt.

    Both are straight shooters. I actually bought the 2nd 20 just for the barrel anyway. With the cost of some 20 gage express barrels , if you can find them, you might be better off just buying another gun.
     
  12. PapaG

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    I shoot a TB from 1975, probably 300,000 rounds. Receiver cracked a few years back. Remington replaced it last summer for $247, about $60 more than I paid for the gun new. Fit and finish on new receiver was way better than the original. Hope to be shooting it until just before they close the lid on me. I was 31 when I bought it, 75 now.
     
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  13. George P

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    You're not going to find Wingmasters at Walmart............
     
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    I got my 870 for my 14th birthday, I turn 62 this week, I can attest to their durability.
     
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    I don’t have any experience with newer 870s but my late 70s era 870 special purpose had a similar problem to the one Robbins290 described, but only with Fiocci shells. They’ve got soft heads and would get stuck in the generously sized bore when the rim would expand and not catch the extractor. My solution was to stick with Federal, Remington, or Winchester shells. It did help me learn a breakthrough in wing shooting since I was stuck with an effectively single shot gun and had to pick shots wisely.
     
  16. ohihunter2014

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    Plastic on what?
     
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    plastic holding on the forend (all the others are steel)

    I am going to compare side by side when i get a min to point out exactly what is plastic now
     
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    I haven't looked but that was my question. Not necessarily "shocked" but I'd be more than a little surprised if Walmart is/was stocking Wingmasters.
     
  19. BigBore45

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    All 870s are not near what they were. Better off buying a uses one dated before 1990. They did not ream the chambers correctly on most of the new ones and it causes lots of extraction problems along with ruining shells if your a loader. Also they had lots of wood problems with the stock cracking. The warranty on new 870 Express shotguns is only 2 years. I learned that the hard way. Remington took bankruptcy for a reason.................
     
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  20. George P

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    Remington warranty is longer than that; they now offer a limited lifetime warranty
     
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    When did this happen?
     
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    Excludes wear.
     
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    Lifetime warranty started in 2017----I believe
     
  24. The Evangelist Cowboy

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    Does the stock not fit you on the Mossberg? If the Mossberg works and it's just the stock placement I would opt for a new stock over a new gun. By all means by the 870 if you just want a new shotgun but as others have stated the quality of Remington has slipped in current years and that's all around not just shotguns. If I was going for a brand new pump nowadays it's going to be a Mossberg.
     
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  25. ohihunter2014

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    Stock is too small for me. LOP and overall fit.
     
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