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New retail store. what rifles to stock?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by timberwolf1164@sbcglobal.net, Sep 8, 2008.

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  1. timberwolf1164@sbcglobal.net

    timberwolf1164@sbcglobal.net Member

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    In the process of stocking a new store from the ground up. Getting a handle on pistols but I admit I am not as famiiar with rifles. There is a Walmart and a Dicks nearby, which I relalize I can't compete with. Here is my list so far, please give me your ideas and thoughts.
    Thanks Carl
    STROGER R P350PUMP 12
    31045 OVER/UNDER 12
    3145 SIDE/SIDE 12
    31400 COACH 12
    3157 PISTOL GRIP 12
    SAVAGE R 64FSS 22LR,S,L
    64FB 22LR,S,L
    64G WOOD 22LR,S,L
    CUB YOUTH 22LR,S,L
    93R17F 17HMR
    RUGER R MINI 14 223 REM
    R 10/22 39743 B 22LR
    R 10/22 SS 22LR
     
  2. kcmarine

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    Neither the Wal-Mart nor the Dick's will have AR-15 or AR-10 rifles. They're hot sellers too, and you can stock uppers and other items which people will need for them. They also have tons of accessories you can get for them, meaning that you will have customers coming back (provided that you give good service and keep your prices fair).

    WASR's and Saigas are also good to sell.

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    Some other ideas would be military surplus rifles... again, Wal-Mart and Dick's don't carry them. They're cheap, and people like to collect them. Most examples nowadays are from the former Soviet Union. Mosin- Nagants and SKS rifles come to mind.
     
  3. jerkface11

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    AR's, Saigas, Savage and Stevens rifles.
     
  4. TexasRifleman

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    ARs are hot, no question.

    I'd be afraid to go down the "C&R" path simply because of the returns. I'd bet guys that sell that in a retail storefront see more unhappiness once folks get them home than a brand new gun, then come in the next day wanting a refund. That's just my gut feeling though. And frankly how much margin is there in a Mosin?

    Marlin lever actions possibly? Marlins in general in fact.
    CZ's possibly. There's another reasonably priced rifle that Wal Mart doesnt carry that I know of.

    Depending on the audience you might specialize in the higher end stuff, with more margin; Brownings, Berettas, FNs... stuff that's more unusual if you have the market for it.

    And of course keep the catalogs from your wholesalers out front where they are easy to get at, and make sure your customers know YOU will order anything they want, also unlike Wal Mart.

    I think a willingness to do simple transfers and order things for customers will be how you compete with the big guys.

    Going into a gun store and asking to order something funky then being told no is the main reason I totally stop doing business with a place.
     
  5. Hoppy590

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    Saiga's ( if you can get them)
    AR's both complete rifles, and components
    any AK pattern you can get
    almost any Autoloader you can get (FAL, M1A, Ruger Mini's, CETME/G3's, SU-16's etc)
     
  6. Vaarok

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    As much evil black plastic as possible. Guys who buy a hunting rifle are one-off customers, mostly. Guys who buy EBRs seldom stop with just one.
     
  7. Hoppy590

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    i also think the market for EBR accessory's is a little richer than hunting gear. many hunters buy gun stuff untill they find what works best for them then stop.

    where as theres always the latest and greatest AR Upper, new mags, cool stocks etc.

    also building EBR rifles is a good hobby. and a shop can get alot of business as long as they keep thier prices competitive

    maybe carry some of the good, non name brand companys. the first that comes to mind is Essential Arms. they make AR lowers, and kits at cheap prices with good quality
    http://www.essentialarms.com/
     
  8. Auburn1992

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    WASR 10
    AR15 (and many variants)
    AR10
    Savage 111 + 110 + 10 + 11
    Remington 700's
    Remington XR-100
    Remington 870's
    Stevens Rifles
    Marlin 60
    Marlin 336
    Mini 14's
    Mini 30's
    FN SPR
    Ruger M77 Mkii's
    Walther G22

    Also in your into MilSurps:
    K98
    Mosin Nagant
    Sks
    etc.

    Just start browsing some gun websites.
     
  9. Shade00

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    +1 to the Saigas - I never see them locally. I'd also love to see Marlin 39As in a shop, and a nice variety of AKs - specifically stuff in 5.45x39 or .22LR.
     
  10. 420Stainless

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    (Note: I'm not in sales, just a customer who hangs out too much in gun stores) Don't know if its regional or not, but around here it seems like someone's always at the gun counter inquiring about inexpensive youth rifles for deer hunting. Handi-rifles and Remington youth models in .243 seem to be a recurring requests.
     
  11. The King of Pants

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    I've heard baaad things lately about the availability of AR uppers and complete rifles from the distributors. My understanding is that DPMS is something like 30K+ rifles behind on their orders. Places have rifles but they're from old orders.
     
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    CZ rifles of all kinds. I ordered one from the local store a couple months ago and they got two more with the order. Both were gone within the month. (these were 22LR models, one was the ultra lux, the other regular lux) I would also agree to stock a lot of EBRs and youth hunting rifles.
     
  13. Hoppy590

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    there are hundreds of AR makers. and while DPMS situation may be a signal of the market. theres plenty of options who are shipping here and now
     
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    You can't compete with big box stores prices, but why try to compete at all?


    Stock and sell everything that your big box competition does not offer.
    You will be the "GO2" shop for weapons that are otherwise unavailable in your area.
     
  15. pfc.pennington

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    420stainless Quote "it seems like someone's always at the gun counter inquiring about inexpensive youth rifles for deer hunting. Handi-rifles and Remington youth models in .243 seem to be a recurring requests." Quote

    +1 to 420stainless
    When i was back home and hanging out in the gunstores, that was a big request, But no one ever seem to have them on the shelf.
     
  16. lamazza

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    I would like to see more gun stores with battle rifles of all kinds. There is nothing more boring than a large gun store with racks and racks of bolt guns and shotguns...yawn
     
  17. snead888

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    definitely old WWII and surplus rifles like the mosin, M1, SKS, AK's, Springfield, Enfield, etc. also you could go to the nearby ranges and ask the people who will be your customers what they want. or hangout at Wal-mart and Dicks and badger the people there. my $0.02
     
  18. Vaarok

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    +2 on youth rifles. Carbines, even. My local gunshops pay a premium for sporting rifles the previous owners shortened the stocks on, simply because of the "take mah boy out huntin'" crowd constantly wanting a deer rifle for their kid.
     
  19. 22-rimfire

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    Walmart carries cheap stuff; essentially basic models mostly. Dicks has a broader selection, but still does not focus on the better quality stuff.

    Definitely AR's, CZ's, Remington rifles including 22's, Browning, Anschutz and Savage. I would stock a few 375's also. Few do. A layaway plan would be nice as well, but I'm sure that is expensive for the owners.
     
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    You've got flexibility the boxers don't have. CZ's are a winner!
    BTW, Good Luck!:)

    CRITGIT
     
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    +1 on cz's, ARs, saigas. You can make good money off used too.

    Knowledgeable/nice staff is a big one that you can have over the other guys.
     
  22. rfurtkamp

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    Dealt with those folks for years. They also only want them if they cost $100 and come with a free scope and box of shells.
     
  23. mp510

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    They wholesale for $69-$70 each. They retail (and often sell for) $129 to $150 each.
     
  24. W.E.G.

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    exotic dancers and Bar-B-Q, plus a few guns

    Most guys would never want to go home.
     
  25. Deus Machina

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    Battle rifles seem to be getting even more popular.

    Try some really nice rifles. Higher-end ones than the big chains carry, and some low- and mid-level ones they don't.

    +1 on the Saiga, too, if you can get it. The one 20"-barrel I saw locally, the shop wanted (probably still wants) $575 for, used. I bought a 16" (a $30 difference) NIB for $335+FFL, and that's including the layaway fees and shipping.
     
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