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New Ruger 380 Pistol!! LC380

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by weblance, Jan 3, 2013.

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  1. weblance

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    Ruger now has a new 380 pistol based on the LC9. Its called the LC380. Im sure many people will Poo Poo this new model, but I think it will sell to those who hate the LCP because of the way it recoils. I really like my LC9 and also like the 380 cartridge, but never liked my LCP. Nice to see more new models from Ruger. LCR 22 WMR, SR45 and LC380.

    http://www.ruger.com/products/lc380/index.html
     
  2. 1KPerDay

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    Me not get... :confused:
     
  3. armedwalleye

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    I dunno

    LC9 size, LCP cartidge(380)?

    Sounds like the worst of both worlds. If you're gonna carry something the SIZE of an LC9, why bother with 380 cartidges?

    Something for everybody, I guess. To each their own.
     
  4. Sergei Mosin

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    The LCP has gained a reputation for vicious recoil, and the LC9 is a snappy little thing too. The LC380, with a lighter cartridge in a heavier pistol, ought to be a pretty soft shooter.
     
  5. 351 WINCHESTER

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    My lcp doesn't have vicious recoil. It's pretty mild. I guess recoil is just subjective isn't it?
     
  6. obx-shooter

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    I can see a few reasons to like this pistol. Real sights for a start. What I've always liked about my Sig P230 is it has real sights and it's accuracy...but it's still a blowback design and my wife never liked it's "snappy-ness". The delayed blowback of the LC380 at a weight near the P230 should result in a even more pleasant shooting gun with the recoil spread over a larger period. I'll await reviews to see if it delivers on it's potential.
     
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    I think its a great idea. My mom has carpal tunnel syndrome and has had surgery on both wrists. She has to carry a revolver due to her problems with recoil and the pocket guns issues with limp wristing. I think I will pick one up for her to try it. She purse carries so the little bigger would be fine for her.

    There is a person for every gun, just because it isnt your cup of tea doesnt mean it isnt perfect for someone else.
     
  8. holdencm9

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    Isn't that what like all the Bersa .380's are? They may even be larger than the LC9.

    And they sell just fine. Personally I don't find the LCP recoil "pleasant" and am not eager to shoot it regularly, but I also wouldn't call it "vicious." A lot of it has to do with hand size and how you are able to grip it. It is definitely snappy, and sights leave a bit to be desired. I think the LC 380 would have a market, especially among people like ljnowell mentions.
     
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    Sounds like a great idea for someone like my mom and grandmother. It should have a mild recoil spring so it makes it easy for them to work to slide. I think it's a great idea. Maybe just not for the guys who hang out on this forum.
     
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    I rather like a more or less normal size .380 pistol, and in fact I'm carrying one (a BDA) right now. So I see the point of this one. Sufficient firepower (I use FMJ), accurate enough for SD, and very manageable (almost .22LR-like) recoil. There is a market for this sort of pistol, and I suspect it's growing.
     
  11. heeler

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    Weird...
    I truely love my little LCP but once we get into compact 9mm size/weight I will opt for my PM9.
     
  12. MedWheeler

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    I think there's a market for it. Ruger is simply trying to capture even more of a potential concealed-carry market.
    Don't worry, guys; I'm sure the LC9 isn't going anywhere.
     
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    One word...

    WHY?????

    If the person can't handle the recoil of the LC9, then just carry the LCP or P3AT. Heck, carry the P3AT with the OEM 9 round mag! BTW, neither the LCP or P3At has harsh recoil. Want harsh recoil? Shoot a NAA Guardian in 380!
     
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    Or at least give the 380 one extra round! Oh wait, both are 9mm...never mind... Yup, worst of both worlds.
     
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    This is far form the first "large" 380. Sig P250 & P232, Beretta 84, CZ 83, Bersa, Walthers. Nothing new. There must be some market for it
     
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    i think it would be a fine carry gun. soft recoil and much better sights than the LCP, all-in-all, a much more shoot-able gun. i just hope they smoothed up the trigger some. the lc9 that i shot was one of the worst triggers i have ever pulled.
     
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    improved sights.....that's a plus.

    I like the loaded chamber indicator....that's a plus.

    The grip looks more ergonomic...that's a plus.

    Still not sure it has a niche though.
     
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    Jeez.. sit down and take something for that, why don't you?
     
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    I might be a buyer as I'm a .380acp fan, instead of another LCP or instead of a P-232 yeah maybe.
     
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    It looks to me that Ruger is just trying find its niche in the pocket auto marketplace with a slightly larger/less recoil kind of gun. I'm sure there are probably any number of shooters out there who might appreciate this design (along with having some decent sights), over the LCP and LC9. Nothing wrong with that as far as I can tell.
     
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    I'd have preferred if they did the opposite and made a LCP9, closer in size to the LCP with no manual safety. I thought it was bizarre that the LC9 was so different from the LCP. I'd been interested when they came out until I saw one in the store and was like "holy crap, that's just a skinny compact".
     
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    amen
     
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    I see the niche this gun fills. Less recoil than the 9mm with more to hold onto than the LCP

    However if your ammunition saavy enough there are lightweight 9mm loads that close the 380/9mm recoil gap significantly.

    Me I want to see a scaled to size locked breach 15+ shot 32acp. Think miniature g19




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    Interesting, I guess.

    It weighs not quite what a pair of LCP's weigh, but only hold 1 more round of mag capacity.

    It's of a similar size to some 9mm's.

    Better sights than the LCP. ;)

    The only reason I finally bought a LCP was because of the diminutive size and reported reliability I'd heard from several LE owners/users ... and it fit inside some pockets (pocket-holstered) in which I couldn't carry one of my 5-shot J's.

    It's noticeably lighter than my lightest J's (13.3oz), too.

    I didn't find the felt recoil to be objectionable (not like some blow-back .380's I've used), but after 100 rounds of a mix of 102gr, 95gr & 90gr hollowpoint loads in my familiarization & qual session, it was starting to feel a bit snappy in my hand.

    However, the small size which is an advantage for me is also a disadvantage to other folks with larger hands than mine. A friend of mine coulodn't get a good grip on the little pistol without the fingers of his hand interfering with each other while shooting the gun. A larger .380 would work much better for him, but for the size increase he'd rather remain with a 9mm.

    I imagine Ruger will sell the new, larger .380.

    After all, other large .380's still sell.

    If I have to use a .380, though, I'll stick with something the overall size of the LCP or Bodyguard 380 (although I didn't choose the Bodyguard because I didn't need the integral laser).
     
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    I am interested

    WEBLANCE,

    This sounds interesting. My off duty gun is a SIG 232 with night sights.

    The RUGER weighs the same, is only 1/5 inch less in height and 2/3 of inch shorter. It is noticably thinner at 9/10 of inch.

    My questions are:

    1. How is the trigger? The trigger on my SIG is great.

    2. Can I get night sights?

    3. Will the RUGER be as reliable as my SIG.

    The SIG will shoot the same scores as my BERETTA 92 and SIG 225 which are the guns that I shoot the best. It lacks their magazine capacity, faster reloading and greater stopping power, but matches their control and accuracy and is nearly as reliable.
    The 232 needs to be cleaned more often that the BERETTA 84 pistols.

    If I can get night sights and the trigger is almost as good as the SIG 232, I would be very interested. I will have to see one up close to find out.
    One reason I use the SIG is that mini 9's like the CW9 from KAHR and the LC9 from RUGER have really bad recoil.
    The even smaller .380's give up size, but keep that harsh recoil.
    Even a .32ACP can be unpleasant if it is small enough. My experience with the NAA Guardian proved that to me.

    While the extra power of a 9m.m. is very reassuring and is what I want for my house or car gun, hitting the target is more important.
    I was at the range the other day and shot 150, 150 and 149 out of possible 150 with an 85 year old COLT 1903 Pocket Pistol. I used both WINCHESTER Silver Tip hollow points and FIOCCHI jhp ammo.
    I could not ask for better scores and the ease of making them due to the near lack of recoil convinced me that good control and accurate shooting outweighs any advantage in stopping power when you get past a minimum point like a hollow point .32ACP.

    Jim
     
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