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New Ruger "Mini-14 Target" model; illegal in CA

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Creeping Incrementalism, Apr 4, 2007.

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  1. Creeping Incrementalism

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    Ruger is introducing a "target" model Mini-14 with a heavier barrel, tuneable harmonic dampener, and thumbhole stock (which makes it illegal in CA). I just think it is funny that a company whose founder sold us out in an effort to save his beloved Mini-14, has its target version (less "military", more "sporting") not legal under California AW law.

    I wonder if the receiver/barrel fits in any other Mini stocks, and if Ruger would make the effort to package them so for California? I'm sure a specialty outfit could probably do it... not that I'd buy one.


     

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  2. DoubleTapDrew

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    Well it's ugly enough to be Cali legal... :neener:
    How do those shoot? Are they up to AR accuracy (1 moa)?
    What are the evil featues? Seems like it would be easy to make a mag well block off plate and use a fixed mag like bolt guns.
    Maybe that evil assault tiger-stripe urban camo wood grain pattern on the stock confuses and angers feinstein :eek:
     
  3. SSN Vet

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    I've come to the conclusion......

    that I will never purchase anything made by Ruger.
     
  4. Dmack_901

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    Couldn't they just do either of these?
     

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  5. Reddbecca

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    He only did it with magazines, because a great number of firearms were threatened with being banned from civilian ownership. There's no telling what would've happened if he hadn't sent that letter. For all we know all our AR-15s and AK-47s and SKSs would've been banned outright.

    Personally I'm glad the new model isn't politically correct and California Approved. I'm tired of manufacturers deciding that they've gotta make their guns in such a way that complies with the stupid laws of extreme liberal wingnuts. I say it's time to start pissing them off.
     
  6. Creeping Incrementalism

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    According to Neal Knox, "While I agree that a ban on over-15-round magazines would be "indefinitely preferable" to a ban on the guns that use them, that's not the question. Neither I, nor the other gun groups have ever believed that we were faced with such an either/or choice. Early last year the NRA legislative Policy committee discussed various alternatives to the proposed "assault weapons" ban, and wisely decided that magazine restrictions wouldn't satisfy our foes, but would make it more difficult to stop a gun ban."

    - http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/papabill.html

    And besides, a few years later we got the Clinton AWB, which included both mag and firearm bans.

    This isn't pissing them off because it isn't being sold in California! It makes the liberals happy because they can say, "see more guns that can't be legally sold in our state."
     
  7. 762X39

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    The Mini14 was never that good a rifle and still isn't....
    Of course I don't think that Colts M-16 were that great either ( I served with a C7 which is a Canadian built M16) but I digress.
    I have several Ruger weapons (that introduced me to firearms and put plaques on my wall) and respect the late Mr Ruger in spite of all the bull**** that has happened in your country as well as mine regarding firearms. Pissing on him because of his actions means we should also piss on Colt and Smith & Wesson for their deals and actions as well.
    Guess what... they all have made good weapons at one time or another. Although I will probably never buy a Smith, I do own a very nice Colt King Cobra. Trying to survive means that sometimes you make deals with the Devil that you later regret. If you are an armchair critic my advice to you is F### off unless you have laid it on the line for real like all the new vets both our countries are generating at this time.

    Nuff said for now.
     
  8. blackhawk2000

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    Never thought I would say this, but good for California.
     
  9. Creeping Incrementalism

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    As I type this there's a Mini sitting two feet away. Slim, elegant, reliable as long as I don't let too much desert sand and Russian carbon foul it, and accurate as far as Minis go. I learned how to load ammunition with an M77 as the firearm. And I've shot some very tight groups with a Blackhawk 22LR. So I have heartfelt emotions towards Ruger firearms as strong as anyone.

    But anyone who every mentioned firearm capacities and "simple civillians" in the same instance, is a pure selfish traitor. Not just a selfish traitor, but a short-sighted one at that. He would kill 50% of RKBA in an effort to save his own company, when really he was just helping the antis to kill his own business in the long run.

    I wouldn't buy anything from any company that restricts sales of legal products to civillians [Colt], and S&W seems to have reversed policy since then... I'm not sure, but I haven't bought anything from them and they are under new owners anyway. But only Ruger insulted us, while making a major blow for the antis, in a stupid, short-sighted attempt to save his own "little rifle" (Mini) that the antis with HR 1022 are trying to ban anyway. Bill Ruger was a total appeaser, but one so dumb he sold his own company out not too many years after he sold the rest of us out... a Chamberlain, Quisling, and Benedict Arnold all rolled into one, but far dumber and even more pathetic than any of them.

    As Wikipedia puts it,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturm,_Ruger

    And for that Ruger quote...

    - Bill Ruger

    http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/papabill.html

    Even Khrushchev denounched Stalin. I'm waiting for Bill Jr....
     
  10. DWARREN123

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    Mr. Ruger was no better or worse than others for trying to compromise. Making a firearm or component illegal is less than reasonable when an inanimate object does not do anything without human intervention.
    All of the firearms companies have compromised one way or another or if not American have probably supplied someone not friendly to us.
     
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    From the looks of most catalogs, not too much gets into
    ********** these days. Most likely this Ruger is deemed evil
    no matter what it wears. It would sure be neat if Ruger would
    update at a reasonable price the older ones to a target version.
    Look how the 10/22 took off!!!!:)
     
  12. glockman19

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    Just get a different stock you're fine. I don't like the stock anyway.
     
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    what kind of dumba$$ cali lawmaker would call anything thing with a thumbhole an assualt weapon???????:fire: :fire: :cuss: :cuss:
     
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    THANK YOU RED!!!!

    Can anyone explain the pros of living in CA??? Besides beaches there's nothing good that is in the state. --(plus you can't own any "fun" guns)-- Just my 2¢. AZhunter☻
     
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    Id rather have an AR but wouldnt heisitate to purchase one if i came across a good deal. I like their M77s.So far ive noticed people biased about Glocks,Colts,Rugers,and S&W due to one thing or another considering their buisness practice. Am i leaving someone out?
     
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    Beaches, good looking women, sun, style, awesome scenery. Pretty much it. Oh and I travel abroad fairly frequently.. when people ask me where I'm from I say "California" instead of "the US" and they hate me less.
     
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    Ya know, I was looking at this silly Ruger rifle thinking... what are people's principal gripes with the Mini-14? Usually, it's that they're inaccurate, have crappy triggers, and are overpriced.

    That being said, it boggles my mind that Ruger didn't simply upgrade the Mini-14 with a slightly heavier barrel and improved trigger. Why not just address the problems that way and maintain the rifle's utility as a light .223 carbine? Hell, if Ruger made a Mini-14 that had a heavier profile barrel, decent trigger, kept the Garand sights, and was priced at $450-500, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

    Now they have a rifle that will sell for $900 (?) which I can't even buy because of my state's laws.

    Great.
     
  18. spaceCADETzoom

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    Better service, better environment, infinitely better weather...objectively, the most beautiful state in the union--from beaches to vast redwood forests, to snowcapped mountains, to endless fields. I really wish more people had your attitude...if people quit coming to california by the masses, we wouldn't have your bs gun laws. Guess what? It's non-natives that insist on overlegislating their lives.

    California bashing only comes from the closeminded shut-ins that have never been outside of their 30 mile radius of their non-CA birthplace. I've lived many places. And by the food alone CA owns all. THe people, the weather, the CAR CULTURE.etc,etc... Where else could you scuba in the ocean without a drysuit, surf, ski, snowboard, and even plink at cans with your EBR, all on the same winter day? Where else can you have Corvettes, Vipers, M3s, lifted monster trucks, all at the same stoplight and with no one even turning a head because all of those cars are so common?

    People forget that CA is an almost perfect cross section of America in general. It is by far the largest state, and by cross section the most populist. Check out our congressmen...we have the most severe conservatives in the union and the most severe Democrats. You all forget that if put to a vote tomorrow, the US as a whole would outlaw all EBRs. That's a terrible thing...but would I call all Americans and all of the US "loony land" because of that fact?

    Quit the CA-bashing and grow up. Before 2000, more EBRs were sold in the state of CA than any other. New Jersey, NY, and all of the eastern states do not have a fetish for EBRs that I find to be a distinctly Western state phenomenon...it probably has to do with our frontiersmen, self-reliance, liberal (read: more/less libertarian) bent that is more pronounced out west. Out east they find the guy looking over their shoulder for black helicopters as a deranged loon. Out west, that guy's just quirky. All's I'm saying is that judging an entire state by its gun laws is stupid. CA also voted against gays getting married and cutting off children of illegal aliens in public schools and enforcing english-only. CA, by its sheer size of population, is home to all poles of politics. And, as much as you hate to say it, the majority of Americans in general (Californian or not) would vote a ban on EBRs.

    CA isn't more Democratic leaning than any other state. It simply has more Americans in it. If people quit coming here with their preconceived notions and/or a desire to change a state that isn't natively theirs, CA would be a much different place as far as laws.

    Quit the CA bashing. Especaialyl from those of you from states with comparative high unemployment, terrible drug addiction numbers, crappy April weather where it's 85 one day and snowing the next, crappy pierced teens with terrible service at every restaurant, subpar colleges, little/nothing to do on any given day, horrible tastes in cars, and crappy chinese buffets on every corner. :) nuff said.
     
  19. Young gun

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    plus in CA you can buy hard liquor in the grocery store. ;)

    Okay that was a little tongue in cheek, but I am planning on moving back next fall. I loved it out there, and maybe I can do something to change some laws.
     
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    Thsy did. That's why the new #580 serial numbered Mini-14's are more accurate. Heavier barrel & improved trigger. I've compared the two and seen it...check it out.
     
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    Apologies for the thread jack here.

    I was born and raised in southern Kali. Left it 3.5 years ago, and don't miss it for a second. I got sick of the taxes, illegals, traffic, crime, smog, insane housing prices, etc.

    Tack on the gun laws, massively overgrown government, and overcrowding, and it makes me not want to even visit to see old friends.
     
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    1. Centerfire weapon
    2. Ability to accept a detacheable magazine
    3. Pistol grip or thumbhole stock
    4. Fun and useful

    Yup that definetly meets the CALDOJ's list of OMG we have no idea what we are talking or legistlating.
     
  23. Spiggy

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    psh, we dont need the 10 round detachable magazine

    Everyone knows that PG/TH Stocks eliminate the need to reload! :neener:


    CA isnt that bad, if it were, my parents wouldn't have stayed here for three and a half decades
     
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    It is an absolutely butt ugly stock in my opinion. I saw my first one the other night at Gander Mt. This thing is huge, has a massive bull barrel and the sliding weight with registration marks. I'll bet it is definately a shooter and will probably hang with or even outshoot most AR's. But dang that stock is ugly.

    Oh, and the price was 749.00.
     
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    i visited kali once in the 70's guess i looked more like the allmans or skynrd than airplane,they treated me like i was head of the kukluxklan snobbish mfs confusin dialect for intellect.
     
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