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New Ruger New Vaquero 45 Colt not even CLOSE!!!

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by petrey10, Aug 5, 2011.

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  1. petrey10

    petrey10 Member

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    Just wondering what some causes could be as to why my brand new Ruger New Vaquero is about a FOOT off from 15 yards.... WAY WAY WAY HIGH!!!

    I have tried factory loads and reloads..... HIGH HIGH HIGH

    Currently I am shooting a 250 gr LRNFP over 7.8gr of unique... the bullets are MB Cowboy #1's....

    I have let another shooter shoot it and its the same result....


    We can stand about 10 feet from the target, aim at the bulleye, and still barely make it less than a foot high
     
  2. mongo356

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    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=605137

    Copied from my original post. Is it a short bbl model?? I'm not sure about Vaquero's mine is a Blackhawk.

    The only advice I may throw your way... the shorter barrel Rugers seem to shoot high even with the rear sight adjusted all the way down. Now if you buy a stainless steel model they have a handy screw on front sight that you can call Ruger and get a taller front sight. The blued models are welded on meaning back to Ruger or competent gunsmith that can weld a taller one. Third option is what both my father and I did to our guns was remove the rear blade and cut the rear sight notch deeper and file the rear sight down about .030 of an inch. You have to be careful and have some mechanical skills but it can be done.
     
  3. Byron

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    I was about to post a new thread on the new Vaquero in 45 LC when I saw this one. I bought a new one this week in 4 5/8th inch barrel and the extra 45 ACP cyclinder. I am shooting the Speer 250 grain lead at factory specs. Mine is shooting POA/POI at 7 and 15 yards for the LC and ACP cartridges.Several others at the range have shot it with the same results.I am quite pleased with mine. Byron
     
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    "If you want to hit a man in the chest, aim for his groin." -- Bat Masterson
     
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    I had two Rugers that shot low and left. The barrels had turned (rotated), so look at the muzzel and sight and see if its square. My SBH was repaired and it turned again, which Ruger replaced, the Redhawk has not been shot that much but seems ok. Ruger will fix the problem just get them to pay the freight.
    Jim
     
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    I have a 5.5 NM and a 7.5 NM. Both are accurate as heck and shoot out to 50 yards and hitting steel every time.
     
  7. petrey10

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    its a 5.5'' barrel... its brand spanking new about 250 rounds thru it how would the barrel not be square??? Would going to 200 gr bullet get my sights closer???


    what should be my zero?? POA @ 15yards? 25 yards? 7yards?
     
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    my 44-40 is dead on out to 30y.....sounds like the front sight is to short....call ruger....maybe they stuck on one to short by mistake?????

    btw is the left and right good?
     
  9. ArchAngelCD

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    petrey10,
    Your revolver should not be shooting a foot high at any range. For some reason your revolver came from the factory with a front sight that's too short. It really should be replaced. Most times fixed sight revolvers come through with a front sight that's intentionally too high so you can sight it in with your chosen load. There's nothing you can do to fix a front sight that's already too low other than have it replaced. There's no reason for you to not send it back to Ruger for correction.
     
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    Send it back; listen to Archangel. A foot high is way out of whack.
     
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    Just went through the same thing with my 44 spec. Call Ruger they'll pay shipping both ways. My gun was stainless so I asked them to leave front sight a little tall. They accomadated when I got it back it shot about 6" low. One range session wwith a file and now it's perfect.
     
  12. petrey10

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    I just want to make sure here but you put the front blade level to the rear sight prongs.... and then dead center...


    i just want to make sure its not shooter error first
     
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    petrey10- yes thats correct, depending on who you ask. some prefer a six-o'clock hold. some prefer a kind of combination of the two-(I fall into this group -middle picture) setting whatever you want to hit right on top of the front blade of the sight.
     
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    Are you both experienced handgun shooter?

    To be off a foot at 10' the sights would have to be almost an inch out of alignment with the barrel. In other words, the back sight would have to stand an inch taller than the front sight. :eek:

    That said, my 7.5" SBH would hit pretty high at 15 yards when shooting .44 specials. The sights were regulated for .44mag and the slower specials allowed more muzzle rise before the bullet left the barrel. Nothing like you're talking about though.
     
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    Assuming this really is a gun problem ... :) If you were using heavier than normal bullets I could see the high POI, but it should have been regulated for factory loads. And it is harder to add metal to a front sight than to take it away, as one would do if it were shooting low. Although Ruger doesn't have a written warranty, they will still take care of it.
     
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    i had one that shot high and left filed the sight down and bent it a little to shoot dead on at 15 yards
     
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    I had the exact same issue with the exact same Ruger Vaquero 5.5' revolver.....I've returned more new Ruger firearms then all others combined over thirty-five years....
     
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    No offense Petry, but I would really let an experienced pistol shooter shoot it before you send it back. Buy him a box of shells and see how he does.

    At 10' that just doesn't sound possible.
     
  20. petrey10

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    will do... i don't want to bash Ruger or anything... the other shooter I let shoot it was an experienced shooter... this is my first revolver...


    filing down the sight would raise the bullet correct? So I need a taller front sight if I am hitting high.

    I have shot factory loads and reloads getting the same result...
     
  21. atlantis

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    ^^^^^^^
    Correct.

    If you're sure it's a gun problem, call Ruger. They'll take care of it for you.
     
  22. ghitch75

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    yes short sight you shoot high......long sight you shoot low....as said in post 8...
     
  23. kludge

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    Bump up that load and it'll shoot lower.

    You're almost a grain below start.
     
  24. Sam Cade

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    Hmmm.... This might be a trend. I had the exact same issue with the same weapon last year, I sent it back to Ruger and when it came back it had a new barrel.

    Gratis of course.

    You can't fault them for their customer service.
     
  25. swindler1

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    I'm with Kludge on this one. Alliant shows 9.5gr with a 250gr lswc. I shoot a 250gr lead bullet like yours with 8.8grs of Unique in 4 different Rugers.

    www.alliantpowder.com
     
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