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new russian pistols (pics)

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by max popenker, Sep 26, 2003.

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  1. max popenker

    max popenker Member

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    Took these pictures at IPSC event for Russian Police troops.

    Info on these guns will be available on my website soon

    top to bottom: Makarov PM in 9x18, GSh-18 in 9x19, PYa in 9x19 and SR-1 "Gyrza" in 9x21 SP10
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    GSh-18 (Russian Glock-alike with 18rd mag and rotating barrel lock) vs PM
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    Yours truly aiming the new standard issue Russian Army pistol, Yarygin PYa (9x19mm, 18 rds, all-steel DA/SA, modified Browning HP locking)
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  2. WonderNine

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    Wow, that Yarygin PYa looks pretty cool. The barrel is a little short for my tastes though. Kind of looks a bit like a Browning BDM.
     
  3. Abominable No-Man

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    I was thinking it looked like the Colt model 2000, but yeah I could see the BDM, too.

    ANM
     
  4. Correia

    Correia Moderator Emeritus

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    I really like the look of that GSH-18.

    Ok, so how do they shoot? How are the triggers? Accuracy? They are Russian, so I'm not going to bother asking about reliability. :)

    I wish these were imported. I have a Russian shotgun that I got for $300 that would probably be $800 if it were American. I have a Russian rifle that was $500 that is equivielnt to most $900 American rifles. Both are super ugly, a little rough, but extreamly sturdy and reliable.

    I imagine that the pistols would be similar, and if that were the case, I would buy them in a heartbeat.
     
  5. BowStreetRunner

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    the SR-1 "Gyrza" in 9x21 SP10 looks like a Makarov's ugly stepbrother
    i like that new army pistol...it sure does have a lot of slide serrations
     
  6. hksw

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    Those are some pretty interesting pieces. Any pics of them disassembled?
     
  7. Norm357

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    Max, very nice website! What are the CCW laws like in Russia?

    Thanks,
    Norm
     
  8. Aleko

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    There aren't any. You can't even own a handgun there. Òîëüêî ìèëèöèÿ è âîåííèå ìîãóò íîñèòü èëè èìåòü îðóæèå (Only cops and military can carry and possess weapons).
     
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    I actually like a couple of them........Russia makes pretty tough guns also.
    Nice information...thanks.
    Shoot well
     
  10. Bowlcut

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    that gsh-18 looks pretty cool. is it cheap? lol at its size and capacity looks to be a pretty cool gun if it shoots well
     
  11. Standing Wolf

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    They look a lot like Russian cars: ugly.
     
  12. Siggyboy

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    Max, very nice website! What are the CCW laws like in Russia?
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    There aren't any. You can't even own a handgun there. Òîëüêî ìèëèöèÿ è âîåííèå ìîãóò íîñèòü èëè èìåòü îðóæèå (Only cops and military can carry and possess weapons).

    You mean only cops, military and mafia members? ;)
     
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    I agree. The last one also looks similar to a Browning BDM to me.
     
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    What mafia, there's no mafia there... :rolleyes: :D
     
  15. RTFM

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    So MAX, what were you ready to kill?
    Got your finger on the trigger there, and looks to me like a populated area.
    Never have seen a range with houses and cars up on the firing line. :confused:


    Shame, shame, shame.....

    RTFM
     
  16. Justin

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    Hi Max-

    I'd be interested to learn more about the GSH 18. That thing looks like it's got a super low bore axis and would point about like a finger.

    It would be way cool if we could import small arms from Russia. *sigh*
     
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    Some info on GSh-18 available here, soon will update with new pics and some more info. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg111-e.htm

    About the triggers: Late production PYa pistols have more or less acceptable triggers, in both DA and SA, bu the best of three in SA is SR-1 Gyrza - wery smooth and short. The DA trigger of SR-1 is consisitent, but long and somewhat heavy. The other thing about SR-1 is its grip safety, which blocks the sear, but not the trigger, and can be easily left "ON" with improper grip under the stress, which could be fatal.

    The GSh-18 has a glock-like trigger with short and relatively heavy pull, but can be surprisingly accurate, thanks to it low bore axis and non-tilting barrel.

    the only generally poor (IMHO!) thing about all three pistols are their sights - even with those "white inserts", they left a lot to be desired.

    I also was somewhat surprised by the popularity of the old big Stechkin APS pistol among our special police (swat-like) teams. Obviously, it almost never fired in full-auto, but thanks to its large mass, low recoil (it fires 9mm PM ammo) and long sight line it could be fired surprisingly accurate in rapid-fire mode, even from the move. One OMON member managed to hit 10 inch steel plate from about 20-25 yards when running really fast parallel to the target line, firing some 4 or 5 rounds, of which at least two ringed the steel - and believe me, it was not by the chance.
     
  18. denfoote

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    Max,
    That's a nice Pistolet Makarova you have there!! By chance, is that your issue weapon??
    Over here, we can own the PM. I have seven!!!! :D
    Aesthetically, the others don't stand up to the PM!!
    Nikolay (sp) was a genius!!!!!
     
  19. max popenker

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    No, this PM is not mine, it was included into picture by some Road Police officer, who attended the event. he also tried the GSh-18 and it fit perfectly into his open-top service PM holster.

    I was issued with the PM when i was in army, but now i'm waiting for my first shotgun permit. Handguns are complete no-no for average civilians here :uhoh:
     
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    Isn't that one near teh bottom called a Grach?

    Cool looking pistols.
     
  21. max popenker

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    The "Grach" now became the Yarygin PYa, it is 2nd from the bottom on the first photo, and the one i aim with on the last photo.
     
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