new russian pistols (pics)

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Took these pictures at IPSC event for Russian Police troops.

Info on these guns will be available on my website soon

top to bottom: Makarov PM in 9x18, GSh-18 in 9x19, PYa in 9x19 and SR-1 "Gyrza" in 9x21 SP10
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GSh-18 (Russian Glock-alike with 18rd mag and rotating barrel lock) vs PM
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Yours truly aiming the new standard issue Russian Army pistol, Yarygin PYa (9x19mm, 18 rds, all-steel DA/SA, modified Browning HP locking)
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I really like the look of that GSH-18.

Ok, so how do they shoot? How are the triggers? Accuracy? They are Russian, so I'm not going to bother asking about reliability. :)

I wish these were imported. I have a Russian shotgun that I got for $300 that would probably be $800 if it were American. I have a Russian rifle that was $500 that is equivielnt to most $900 American rifles. Both are super ugly, a little rough, but extreamly sturdy and reliable.

I imagine that the pistols would be similar, and if that were the case, I would buy them in a heartbeat.
 
Those are some pretty interesting pieces. Any pics of them disassembled?
 
Max, very nice website! What are the CCW laws like in Russia?
There aren't any. You can't even own a handgun there. Òîëüêî ìèëèöèÿ è âîåííèå ìîãóò íîñèòü èëè èìåòü îðóæèå (Only cops and military can carry and possess weapons).
 
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Max, very nice website! What are the CCW laws like in Russia?
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There aren't any. You can't even own a handgun there. Òîëüêî ìèëèöèÿ è âîåííèå ìîãóò íîñèòü èëè èìåòü îðóæèå (Only cops and military can carry and possess weapons).

You mean only cops, military and mafia members? ;)
 
I agree. The last one also looks similar to a Browning BDM to me.
 
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So MAX, what were you ready to kill?
Got your finger on the trigger there, and looks to me like a populated area.
Never have seen a range with houses and cars up on the firing line. :confused:


Shame, shame, shame.....

RTFM
 
Hi Max-

I'd be interested to learn more about the GSH 18. That thing looks like it's got a super low bore axis and would point about like a finger.

It would be way cool if we could import small arms from Russia. *sigh*
 
Some info on GSh-18 available here, soon will update with new pics and some more info. http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg111-e.htm

About the triggers: Late production PYa pistols have more or less acceptable triggers, in both DA and SA, bu the best of three in SA is SR-1 Gyrza - wery smooth and short. The DA trigger of SR-1 is consisitent, but long and somewhat heavy. The other thing about SR-1 is its grip safety, which blocks the sear, but not the trigger, and can be easily left "ON" with improper grip under the stress, which could be fatal.

The GSh-18 has a glock-like trigger with short and relatively heavy pull, but can be surprisingly accurate, thanks to it low bore axis and non-tilting barrel.

the only generally poor (IMHO!) thing about all three pistols are their sights - even with those "white inserts", they left a lot to be desired.

I also was somewhat surprised by the popularity of the old big Stechkin APS pistol among our special police (swat-like) teams. Obviously, it almost never fired in full-auto, but thanks to its large mass, low recoil (it fires 9mm PM ammo) and long sight line it could be fired surprisingly accurate in rapid-fire mode, even from the move. One OMON member managed to hit 10 inch steel plate from about 20-25 yards when running really fast parallel to the target line, firing some 4 or 5 rounds, of which at least two ringed the steel - and believe me, it was not by the chance.
 
No, this PM is not mine, it was included into picture by some Road Police officer, who attended the event. he also tried the GSh-18 and it fit perfectly into his open-top service PM holster.

I was issued with the PM when i was in army, but now i'm waiting for my first shotgun permit. Handguns are complete no-no for average civilians here :uhoh:
 
The "Grach" now became the Yarygin PYa, it is 2nd from the bottom on the first photo, and the one i aim with on the last photo.
 
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