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New S&W .410 Revolver

Discussion in 'SHOT Show Coverage' started by InkEd, Jan 17, 2011.

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  1. InkEd

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  2. IlikeSA

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    That is really ugly, and looks overbuilt too! It reminds me of one of the earlier 1900s no-name revolvers.
     
  3. joeq

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    I can't believe S&W would even produce this. I will definitely not be purchasing one of these.
     
  4. brandon_mcg

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    wow, thats terrible. i usually like smith and wesson products, but that is just bad.
     
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    It will fall by the way side and become a collectors gun...:banghead:
     
  6. InkEd

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    The New Bodyguard and now the Governor. S&W is 0 and 2 for new revolvers at SHOT show. When will they just release some no ILS models and be the highlight of the show for doing absolutely nothing.
     
  7. aryfrosty

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    Oh, I dunno...

    If someone likes the concept they would be 100% better off with this than with a Taurus clunker/ clanker/ clinker. I fooled myself into buying an "UltraLite" Judge. Shot it once and cleaned it and put in the back of the safe. I can't bring myself to foist it off on anyone so I'll just pull it out and hold it and look at it whenever I get to thinking I know guns. What a dumb buy.
     
  8. Gato Montés

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    It was only a matter of time. What, with the Judge selling like hot cakes, someone is bound to try and get a piece of that.


    The name however is flat out retarded.
     
  9. Tom488

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    I guess 'The Executioner' would have been a little too un-PC?
     
  10. Geneseo1911

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    Hmmm....a gun that:

    is overly large & ugly
    is not really good at anything, but advertised as being the answer for everything
    has zero new ideas

    I would have called it "The Senator"



    (but maybe that's just because we have such stellar senators from [strike]Chicago[/strike] Illinois)
     
  11. deacon8

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    Something that we all must keep in mind is that a gun's sole purpose isn't to subdue a bad guy. There are all sorts of guns and they all have a purpose. I own a Taurus Judge. I carry it in an old leather holster on an old leather belt. On our property, I put A LOT of time into our property. I am constantly putting work into the property, whether it be cutting deer trails through blackberries, planting food plots with my small John Deere tractor (with attachments), etc. I mill around and work a lot outside because I am retired and we have a lot of land to take care of. It is primarily hunting land. There are a ton of rattlesnakes around here and if I'm "weed-whacking," or on the tractor, the Judge is perfect "snake medicine."

    The point I am trying to make is that while most people in America live in populated areas, millions and millions of people don't. People that are mostly worried about human attacker, might find a "Judge style" firearm inferior...and they are probably right. However, for those of us who are worried about animal attacks more than people attacks (though I still worry about bad guys and am ready for them), tend to need a wider range of firearms that we use for our everyday lives.

    I carry different firearms on the property depending on what I am doing, where I am on the property, what time of the year it is, etc. And sometimes the Judge just fits the bill. If snakes are an issue, I need a small gun, and am doing something that makes a perectly placed first shot difficult, it is just about perfect. Whenever I carry it, I always carry five .45 LC handloads, loaded with 250 grain GoldDot HP.

    Sometimes a Judge isn't what is best though. Sometimes I would need to carry three firearms to cover all possible situations. Coyotes, deer (if it's hunting season), large animal protection (bear and cougar), snakes, feral cats, skunks, raccoons, people, etc., are all possible firearm uses where I live and spend most of my time.

    The point I am trying make is that there are hundreds of different styles of firearms. There are hundreds of different cartridges for these different firearms. That equals countless possibilities to fill countless needs. There is a place for something like the Judge, even though many people could never conceive what that may be. Some people on here have never been to a place like mine. For others, my property would seem like the absolute definition of wilderness. My nearest neighbor is about 4 miles away and the next is about 6 miles away, if that tells you anything. Some people just cannot conceive living an everyday life like that. Therefore some people cannot conceive an actual use for the Judge.

    It is not my favorite firearm, in fact it is one of my least favorite (I own about 50). However, that damn ugly thing does have a purpose and it is good at what it does. I just wish S&W had their's out when my wife went out to buy me a Judge for Christmas four years ago. ;)

    Sorry for the long post. Just giving my two cents. Keep an open mind when it comes to guns and realize they are not all for self defense. Take care everyone.
     
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    We have come full circle. The day has come when S&W copies Taurus. Having said that, the Judge was/is selling like crazy so someone was going to show up with their own version. Do you think Ruger will come out with "The Attorney"?
     
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    wow finally! this is perfect! now you can buy a worthless handgun AND pay a premium (read way overpriced) namebrand price!:barf:
     
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    Unfortunately, form follows function for both Taurus and S&W. Long cylinder, stubby handle and short barrel equal a rather awkward handgun.
     
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    I agree that the Judge with 410 birdshot would work well on snakes, although I'm not sure it would work sufficiently better than 45 Colt shotshells to be worth it.

    The problem is that Taurus isn't marketing them as "snake medicine". They are doing a full court press to sell these things as self defense weapons, a task to which they are ill suited. Unfortunately, a lot of people are buying into the "shotgun in a holster" fantasy.
     
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    At least this one can fire 45 ACP.
     
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    I'd buy one in 28 ga. :) Just because. I have ammo.
     
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    The Governator.
     
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    It looks like a very useful gun.
    For generating revenue for S&W. Yes, the thing is a turkey. They will doubtless sell a bunch but originality is not in evidence here.
     
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    If those guns are selling, whether they are useful or not, it makes sense to get a market share. Will the type of consumer who buys a judge be interested in spending more for a Smith though?

    Oh and I agree the name kind of sucks.
     
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    Proving once and for all that Smith & Wesson's Marketing Department are just total whores for whatever looks trendy. They should put fishnet stockings and lipstick on it. :barf:
     
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    Maybe Colt will come out with "The President" or ruger could make "The Generalissimo" next.
     
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    Gun companies copy each other all the time. Just like all other businesses. If Taurus's success with the judge is any indicator, this gun will quickly become one of S&W's best selling guns.
     
  24. HankB

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    "The President?" Colt opened a factory in Kenya?

    :neener:

    In any case, I don't view a .410 pistol as being adequate for self defense against anything except snakes. Heck, even a 12 ga. with birdshot can't be counted on to stop a big bad guy. A .410? Nope.
     
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    I can load my Model 60 with .357 Magnums and CCI Shotshells so I can deal with two-legged snakes and no-legged snakes. My Model 60 is smaller, lighter and much, much better-looking.
     
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