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New Toys - Lyman Great Plains Rifle & Pietta 58 Sheriff

Discussion in 'Blackpowder' started by drobs, Dec 17, 2017.

  1. Cooldill

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    Well the one in my picture is from Track of the Wolf. They have a wide selection of good looking ones. Ebay can also be a great source to get one for not much money. I recommend you get one with one or two pockets inside to keep things better organized. Shooting bags and horns are a hobby unto themselves and a number of people make their own. I just buy, though. My horn is from October Country, as is the solid brass range rod in the picture, both are excellent and very high quality. When buying a horn, steer clear from the super cheap ones. They might be made in China and probably leak and let air and moisture in to contaminate the powder, or are constructed improperly to handle an explosion in the event they do explode. A properly made horn is watertight and made so the plug in the rear can easily blow out from the pressure of the explosion.

    As for what I keep inside my bag:

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    I try to keep things as authentic to the 19th century as I can, at least to an extent. I keep a ball bag, tools for my ramrod (ball screw, worm, brush for chambered breech), homemade shooting patches (cotton drill cloth and mink's oil), cleaning patches tied into bundles to keep them together, a nipple wrench, capper, short starter, and on the strap of the bag, a fixed 90 grain powder measure and a nipple pick. I also source straight grained hickory ramrods from October Country and cut and finish them for the rifle, adding a button jag to the end so I can swab between shots and load with the under barrel rod in the field, as well as clean the gun with it too. If I were taking the gun out for an overnight or multi day trip, I'd take along a couple more bundles of cleaning patches, a small rag, and a small container of bear's grease for cleaning purposes.

    The accouterments are part of the fun of black powder shooting. :)
     
  2. Ephraim Kibbey

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    I have not shot a muzzle loading rifle in a while and maybe this does not apply to free hand shots going left of POA for them while the sand bag rest shots are on target.

    A long time back, my concealed carry coach said that putting too much finger on the trigger often pulls the muzzle a bit left for a right handed shooter even with a two hand hold.

    After I stopped doing that my little .380 Firestorm chewed the ten ring to shreds.

    That made me very happy.

    Congratulations on two great buys!
     
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  3. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    Another vote against WD-40.

    Try making your own accoutrements. It's half the fun.
     
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  4. Cooldill

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    True, but nothing wrong with buying it already made.
     
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  5. drobs

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    This rifle is a little heavy for walking around deer hunting.
     
  6. Crawdad1

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    Yep, Lyman GPRs are brutes, overbuilt and built strong.

    I deer hunted with a bunch of guys that all had Lymans, everyone loved them, never a grumble, never a complaint.
     
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  7. drobs

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    Have about 3 more days to hunt. Jumped a pair of small bucks the 1st day. Didn't want to take a shot at a running Deer. Haven't seen any since. A couple nights ago - I heard one snorting at me. He was in my thick woods. Figured I'd circle around him but lost him. My woods are real thick with prickly grape vines. I have an idea where he's bedding down but need a set of pruning clippers to get in there.

    Not one for tree stands but probably should invest in one sometime in the next couple years.
     
  8. drobs

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    Here's my Romanian Mag Pouch Possibles Bag. Cut the rear divider so it has 2 front pouches and 1 large pouch in the rear.

    Added a strap from one of my mag bandoleers. Works for now.

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  9. Cooldill

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    The old timers would do the same thing to war surplus. Very clever and looks fantastic! :)
     
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  10. drobs

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    Back in Africa, no luck deer hunting this year but there is always next year.
    1 criticism on the Lyman Great Plains Rifle - requires swabbing the bore between shots. Maybe it's the 90gr FFFg powder charge I was using or the .530 Hornady ball and .010 patch but I could not do a quick reload for the life of me. Trying to load a 2nd ball after firing w/o swabbing, I could get the patched ball started with my ball starter, but then needed a shot filled plastic mallet to tap the loading rod home.

    Next muzzle loading rifle will be a smooth bore flintlock.

    Soon as I fired off the ball I had loaded for a week and bucket cleaned the barrel. I thought to myself. Dangit, I should have tried some undersized ball and ball with no patch. Oh well 4 months from now will fool around with it some more.
     
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  11. drobs

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    I think I figured out the cause of my difficulty loading a 2nd shot.

    Midsouth Shooters had a 1 day 35% off sale on Hornady ball a few months ago that I jumped on at the last minute. I bought 400 .530 dia + 100 .535 diam Hornady ball. I also grabbed a couple packs of .010 thick shooting patches. Looking at my order just now. Here's the patches I was using:

    https://www.midsouthshooterssupply....-shooting-patch-point010-thickness-(100-pack)

    Reading the description: "Pre-oiled with a light, stainless oil specifically designed to inhibit rust and corrosion."

    That's probably what caused so much fouling in the barrel.
     
  12. Armored farmer

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    Try backing the charge down a tad..., and a bit thicker patch. .015 under .530 ball.
    The tighter patch will burn cleaner.
    It will get better as your bore gets seasoned and polished.
    I'e had excellent results with hoppes bore cleaner and patch lube. I did some extensive research , and got my best results with 55gr3f under .440 ball/.018 hoppes lubed patch in my .45 flinter.
     
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  13. sltm1

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    I'm a little confused, 2 pic's of the rifle, one's right handed and the other is left handed...which is it?
     
  14. Crawdad1

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    Two pictures? Where? I see one the other is Cooldill's rifle.
     
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