New York hunters

LoonWulf said:
One of these days explain the differences in rods to me. My dads getting out of some of his equipment, might be something interesting in there for you but I dont have a clue about the different fishing gear. Most of what hes offings is his heavy Ulua poles, but I know he had some nice shore casting and spinning rods he was thinking of selling....I dont know the difference, just nod when hes talking about fishing gear, same way he does when im talking about the more in depth gun stuff.......
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Some of the older rods and reels can be worth some money especially Japanese made stuff.
 
Okay, so hold on to your hats...you don't need the latest, most expensive. A 7' MH spinning rod with a decent reel (I use Shimano, Pflueger, and Cabela's Salt Strikers) spooled with 15 or 20lb braid, going to a Flouro leader about 5-7' long is all you need. Use a 3/4oz. bucktail on the bottom tipped with a Gulp, and then a 3/0 Gamakatsu baitholder on a dropper loop about a foot above that, tipped with another Gulp. You don't even have to dredge the depths!!! Just cast out, and work it back to shore, using the "Skinner shake", (my description) and you'll catch fluke. You may even be amazed at how close to shore they hit you! I'm talking like 10-20 feet out! I tried all sorts of rigs for years, and mostly found I was wasting money. That simple rig has caught me more Fluke than I ever imagined closer to shore than I ever imagined! I DO, however, appreciate a nice rod and reel, so I use a Shimano Teramar, a Mojo Inshore, or a Penn Battle II, depending on conditions.... but you really can do it with almost any 7' freshwater pole and reel that has a decent backbone and drag, and that is where the difference in Salt and Fresh equipment will be seen as you catch fish. Make sure you rinse all of them real well after fishing in the ocean, and don't "Blast" them with water, but rather "rinse" them really well, as too much force on the water actually pushes the salt and sand into the mechanisms. You want to just dilute it and rinse it all off. And then I use more conventional stuff on the party boats for Fluke, Sea Bass, Cod, etc. I never pay to go Striper fishing, though. Too spoiled in the Hudson with my friends year after year...
 
Oh, and as far as Stewart being a Mad House, I used to go with 2 buddies on Friday night in a station wagon or van, and we'd tailgate until Monday morning on line. The "locals" would drop their cars off, wife drives them home, then drop them off again before check-in on Monday morning of opening day. We had to do that to be in the top 30 to get in and have a shot at a parking area.
 
BillTell said:
Okay, so hold on to your hats...you don't need the latest, most expensive. A 7' MH spinning rod with a decent reel (I use Shimano, Pflueger, and Cabela's Salt Strikers) spooled with 15 or 20lb braid, going to a Flouro leader about 5-7' long is all you need. Use a 3/4oz. bucktail on the bottom tipped with a Gulp, and then a 3/0 Gamakatsu baitholder on a dropper loop about a foot above that, tipped with another Gulp. You don't even have to dredge the depths!!! Just cast out, and work it back to shore, using the "Skinner shake", (my description) and you'll catch fluke. You may even be amazed at how close to shore they hit you! I'm talking like 10-20 feet out! I tried all sorts of rigs for years, and mostly found I was wasting money. That simple rig has caught me more Fluke than I ever imagined closer to shore than I ever imagined! I DO, however, appreciate a nice rod and reel, so I use a Shimano Teramar, a Mojo Inshore, or a Penn Battle II, depending on conditions.... but you really can do it with almost any 7' freshwater pole and reel that has a decent backbone and drag, and that is where the difference in Salt and Fresh equipment will be seen as you catch fish. Make sure you rinse all of them real well after fishing in the ocean, and don't "Blast" them with water, but rather "rinse" them really well, as too much force on the water actually pushes the salt and sand into the mechanisms. You want to just dilute it and rinse it all off. And then I use more conventional stuff on the party boats for Fluke, Sea Bass, Cod, etc. I never pay to go Striper fishing, though. Too spoiled in the Hudson with my friends year after year...
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Yeah that's a great simple fluke rig, I've been using it for years. Good old high low for porgy always works. I used a cheap Quantum baitcaster for years in saltwater, even used it on party boats for some very nice stripers, won the pool one time with a nice 38 pounder bouncing a bucktail. Should have seen the guys face next to me, all be did was joke about that pole the ride out. Wish I still had that real, it was the first new baitcaster I ever bought new. $89 for the combo out of the Cabelas catalog back in 2003 12 year old me was very happy.

I'm loving this fishing talk, but should continue it thru Private messages. Don't need them to shut down the thread lol.
 
BillTell said:
Oh, and as far as Stewart being a Mad House, I used to go with 2 buddies on Friday night in a station wagon or van, and we'd tailgate until Monday morning on line. The "locals" would drop their cars off, wife drives them home, then drop them off again before check-in on Monday morning of opening day. We had to do that to be in the top 30 to get in and have a shot at a parking area.
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I've never hunted there, just here the stories and see all the cars. My dad did back in the day, said it was good. He said the land up in West point was great, but only army could hunt it then. He shot a nice buck there before going down to fort Polk.
 
It's probably been at least 20 years since I hunted Stewart. The tailgating thing was just too much. But opening day was your best shot. We had a nice spot off what was then called Drury Lane. I think the property has been changed now. That was when I first started hunting in the early 1980's. I still have a simple map I drew. There were only a certain number of parking spots, all dirt roads, and we'd drive straight to our spot to try to be the first. Otherwise, you could drive around the property for an hour trying to find the one spot that was still open. I still remember the path we took across some fields to a wooded spot, followed a rock wall, and then it opened up to some hardwoods. There were several old rickety tree stands we'd climb into. I was in my early 20's and so green. Ah, youth. Now I walk out behind my house about 2:30 with my pack and handgun, and sit in a ground blind till the end of shooting light. If I get something, I have to call a buddy with a 4 wheeler to help me get it home so I don't have a heart attack dragging it out...
 
BillTell said:
The West Point property I never hunted, but it was rumored to have a population of Piebald deer.
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Ya I've Hurd that, there's a bunch in Warwick ny, seen a beautiful 10 point late one summer on a fencing job I was helping with. Seen a small buck and a few does, would see a few others cringing there. We have a few over by me in Greenville, I nearly whacked one with my truck a few years ago down the road in slate hill.
 
Fort Drum has total white deer and piebalds when my cousin was there about forty years ago.
There use to be two piebald does one in west Windsor about twenty five years ago. They were colored differently and were about two miles apart.

Last year right before, during and right after deer season my son had a small spike piebald buck on his trail cams right behind his house.
Not as much white on it as all the others had.

They have seen another one a few miles away. They have been letting them go to pass on that gene.
 
BillTell said:
It's probably been at least 20 years since I hunted Stewart. The tailgating thing was just too much. But opening day was your best shot. We had a nice spot off what was then called Drury Lane. I think the property has been changed now. That was when I first started hunting in the early 1980's. I still have a simple map I drew. There were only a certain number of parking spots, all dirt roads, and we'd drive straight to our spot to try to be the first. Otherwise, you could drive around the property for an hour trying to find the one spot that was still open. I still remember the path we took across some fields to a wooded spot, followed a rock wall, and then it opened up to some hardwoods. There were several old rickety tree stands we'd climb into. I was in my early 20's and so green. Ah, youth. Now I walk out behind my house about 2:30 with my pack and handgun, and sit in a ground blind till the end of shooting light. If I get something, I have to call a buddy with a 4 wheeler to help me get it home so I don't have a heart attack dragging it out...
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Ya opening day of real late season is usually the best luck for deer in public land. 10 years ago we lost the permission to hunt the farm I was raised on hunting, the owner Nick died and his family from the city sold the farm. Was just over 100 acres with a good size lake about 2000 feet by about 700.nice fishing to. I know that farm so well and were deer we're I would walk out 30 minutes before I knew that would be. Some very large deer, many 13-14 pointers many doe over 200lb dad shot a nice buck when I was a kid, it was 270 dressed.
 
Our weather is back to normal. I will be taking my grandson up to the Darrington pit in half an hour to let him shoot his AR15 the AK47 and the Ruger 77/22lr.

It takes about half of an hour to get to the pit and it starts to get shade around 3;30.
I will pick up spent shotgun hulls and steel rifle & pistol cases. I have some plastic buckets and my Harbor Freight magnets.
It would be nice to get some brass.
 
Highland Lofts said:
Our weather is back to normal. I will be taking my grandson up to the Darrington pit in half an hour to let him shoot his AR15 the AK47 and the Ruger 77/22lr.

It takes about half of an hour to get to the pit and it starts to get shade around 3;30.
I will pick up spent shotgun hulls and steel rifle & pistol cases. I have some plastic buckets and my Harbor Freight magnets.
It would be nice to get some brass.
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Details of your range trip please
 
So Sunday I took Mason out shooting up to our usual DNR gravel pit. A 1/2 an hour ride from the house.
We waited until after 2:30pm to leave, 3;30 you start to get some shade. We took his 223 - AR15, the AK47 and the Ruger 77/22lr for him to shoot.
I took three gallons of water and some empty soda & beer cans for him to shoot. He was shooting them with the 22lr off hand at 35 yards.
A dollar a shot. If he hits a cans he gets a dollar a can, if he misses a can I get a dollar.
We put out around twelve cans.
He walked away with $3.

I need to get loading up some more 223 ammo for him.
I got a lock up on a couple of cases of steel Wolf 7.62x39 ammo and I have around 10,000 - 22lr ammo.
Plus I have a sh!p load of 38-357 projectiles, primers and powder.
Along for 44spl & 44mag.
The pit is a double pit, there is a lower pit and an upper pit. We had the lower pit
There was a younger couple was shooting in the upper pit. He let Mason shoot his custom built AR15.
He mixed up a ten pound batch of homemade tannerite and shot it, that made a helluva BOOM.

I picked up three gallons of spent shotgun hulls and seven gallons of steel rifle and pistol cases.

After we got done there I let Mason drive me truck about three miles out of the pit.
He had a helluva good time.


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The snow pack lost over 30% with that 100 plus degree heat wave we had for almost two weeks.
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Highland Lofts said:
So Sunday I took Mason out shooting up to our usual DNR gravel pit. A 1/2 an hour ride from the house.
We waited until after 2:30pm to leave, 3;30 you start to get some shade. We took his 223 - AR15, the AK47 and the Ruger 77/22lr for him to shoot.
I took three gallons of water and some empty soda & beer cans for him to shoot. He was shooting them with the 22lr off hand at 35 yards.
A dollar a shot. If he hits a cans he gets a dollar a can, if he misses a can I get a dollar.
We put out around twelve cans.
He walked away with $3.

I need to get loading up some more 223 ammo for him.
I got a lock up on a couple of cases of steel Wolf 7.62x39 ammo and I have around 10,000 - 22lr ammo.
Plus I have a sh!p load of 38-357 projectiles, primers and powder.
Along for 44spl & 44mag.
The pit is a double pit, there is a lower pit and an upper pit. We had the lower pit
There was a younger couple was shooting in the upper pit. He let Mason shoot his custom built AR15.
He mixed up a ten pound batch of homemade tannerite and shot it, that made a helluva BOOM.

I picked up three gallons of spent shotgun hulls and seven gallons of steel rifle and pistol cases.

After we got done there I let Mason drive me truck about three miles out of the pit.
He had a helluva good time.


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The snow pack lost over 30% with that 100 plus degree heat wave we had for almost two weeks.
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I would have liked seeing him drive lol, my dad would always let me part the car/truck when I was little. Same when we went hunting or fishing, we had a ruff trail down to the lake we used to fish most trucks wouldn't make it, dad had a few international scouts them thing would go anywhere even climbed over a few large rock walls with it. His old jeep gladiator was good to, he always had a square body Chevy around back then.
 
Highland Lofts said:
Fort Drum has total white deer and piebalds when my cousin was there about forty years ago.
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Are you thinking perhaps of the Seneca base for white deer? They’re noted for pure white deer, genetic, not albino.

I spent some time at Camp Drum in the late 60’s, early 70’s, now Ft. Drum, but I don’t recall white deer.
 
Hey y’all. Is there a way I can look up the instructor for my hunter safety course? I have my original card but the name has faded so I can’t read it. I need it for some paperwork.
 
daniel craig said:
Hey y’all. Is there a way I can look up the instructor for my hunter safety course? I have my original card but the name has faded so I can’t read it. I need it for some paperwork.
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Do you know where you bought your first license ? If by chance it's a town clerk they can usually find it for you .
 
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