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Newbie question about 9mm ammo

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Mikey2201, Mar 21, 2013.

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  1. Mikey2201

    Mikey2201 Member

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    Can you use 9mm luger is a gun ( beretta M9A1) that says 9mm parabellum on the side of it. and vice verses.

    thanks
    Mike
     
  2. holdencm9

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    Yep.

    9mm Luger = 9mm Para = 9x19mm = 9mm nato

    Just do not get it mixed up with any 9x17mm (.380 Auto) aka 9mm short or 9mm kurz.
     
  3. Newcatwalt

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    Yes. 9mm Luger and 9mm Parabellum are synonymous.
     
  4. f100owner

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    just watch out about 9mm short :)
     
  5. 1KPerDay

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    The only time it's potentially messy is if you happen upon some "9mm Br. C" ammo/brass (S&B marks their .380s thus). (which stands for 9mm Browning Court--short--which is the same as .380 ACP, or 9x17mm)

    Otherwise, Mike, as noted, any 9mm Nato/9mm Luger/9mm Parabellum/9x19mm should be good to go, unless it specifically says anything like +P+ or "submachine gun" anywhere... there have been some really hot 9mm rounds intended for subguns that you shouldn't really shoot in your handgun. But they're not particularly common.
     
  6. Mikey2201

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    Thank you I just wanted to make sure.
     
  7. Outlaw Man

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    I know the question has been answered, but I'd like to throw in 9mm Largo as one to watch out for. Seeing that big "L" can trick you sometimes.
     
  8. oneounceload

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    don't forget about b9x18, aka Mak;
    can't use that in a 9x19
     
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    And you can't use 9x21, 9x23 or 9x25 either. Not that you are likely to see any of that.
     
  10. 1KPerDay

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    A very wise policy. Enjoy your M9! :cool:
     
  11. Mikey2201

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    I did not get it yet but hopefully soon.
     
  12. MedWheeler

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    The Parabellum moniker was all but standard until the mid-nineties. I think it's been dropped from common use because of the meaning of its name: "for war" (from the Latin Si vas pasem, para bellum, or if you seek peace, prepare for war. Simply calling it after its inventor is more "PC."
     
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    that is interesting you say to make it more PC...

    because when you think about it, it makes more since for the gun industry to drop "for war" on a gun they sell to civilians. Or am I confused?
     
  14. Luger_carbine

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    9mm Luger was standard, although Georg Luger called his pistol "Parabellum-Pistole" the cartridge was commonly called "9mm Luger" after it's inventor, perhaps the most under-rated gun maker of all time.
     
  15. YZ

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    No shortage of (free) advice around here. Here is one more. Treat your brand new beretta to fully jacketed ammo. It will help keeping it clean. Fortunately most 9mm para are jacketed. Second, avoid shooting a lot of steel cased ammo. A little will not harm anything, but some say it will wear the extractor sooner over time. Third, mil surplus will be dirtier on average than commercially sold ammo.

    PS. FMJ or JHP as opposed to lead nosed.
     
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    "Otherwise, Mike, as noted, any 9mm Nato/9mm Luger/9mm Parabellum/9x19mm should be good to go, unless it specifically says anything like +P+ or "submachine gun" anywhere... there have been some really hot 9mm rounds intended for subguns that you shouldn't really shoot in your handgun. But they're not particularly common. " ( Sorry I do not know how to post a quote as of yet. This was copied from a post by member 1KPerDay ).

    I just bought 3, 20 round boxes of Winchester PDX1 DEFENDER 9mm Luger +P to use, if needed, in my Kareen Israel HP. My barrel is stamped with +P. Can I use this ammo in my gun? The gun is in good mechanical condition. If I can't use it in my gun does anyone want it at my cost, $22.47 a box from Walmart?
     
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    Saw a guy at the show trying to buy 9x18 for 9x19 use. He figured "just as silly millimeter" :banghead:
     
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    PDX1 is defensive handgun ammo designed for use in modern 9mms. It'll be just fine in your pistol, assuming the pistol is in good shape.

    BTW I doubt your barrel is stamped "+P" but there may be a P proof mark or assembly mark on the lower barrel lug... Got a pic?
     
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    Yes, you can.
     
  20. Mikey2201

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    Thank you again for the info and tips Greatly appreciated.

    YZ - thanks I did not know that about steel cased ammo. That is just for target shooting/practice. What about defensive ammo? I would assume that is ok
     
  21. YZ

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    Steel cased HPs will be fine for carry and occasional practice. Just not for high volume shooting. Steel is harder than brass or aluminum and has higher impact on steel parts.
     
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    Here are a couple of pictures. It has CAL .9m/mP stamped on it.
     

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  23. Arkansas Paul

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    I have one that's supposed to be here by the end of the month. I'm like a kid waiting on Christmas. Mine is a Ruger LC9 though.
     
  24. 1KPerDay

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    That stands for Caliber 9mm Parabellum, the caliber, FYI.

    Cal. 9m/m P
     
  25. Mizar

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    I have not seen any (modern) 9x19 pistol specifically stamped /+P/. Maybe some US made subcompact with an alloy frame has that stamping, but in general it is reserved only for .38 Spl. revolvers. Steel cased ammo is just fine for all day shooting thru a quality pistol (as the shown Israeli contract FEG P9). If the extractor brakes it's an indication that something was not machined right in the first place. Just shoot your gun and enjoy the heavier recoil, the bigger groups and the higher price you payed for those +P's. Or maybe not, because the advertised 1095 fps are just nothing spectacular for the cartridge. Except the price...:neener:

    Boris
     
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