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newbie question: is XD .45 acp same or better than glock?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by yy, Jun 20, 2006.

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  1. yy

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    Superficially the SA XD series look like glocks to me. I see they look plastic. I see the trigger safety(?). But I got my glock because I thought the XD cost more.

    So are the XD better than glocks, or am I comparing apples and oranges?
     
  2. Frandy

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    Well, more like Valencias to Navels. Both are sweet and both are loved or reviled by many.

    I no longer own either, but when I did, I preferred the XD for two reasons, the grip angle and my preference for the grip safety on the XD. There are other differences that THR members are going to point out.

    Oh, and when I did own them they were each accurate, dependable, and sexy-ugly. :evil:
     
  3. yy

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    _redirect_ (oops, I just read the XD .45 info thread by hansen)

    Thanks to Frandy for your response.

    I'm satisfied that the XD isn't _just_ a knockoff of Glock. Perhaps even better both in ergonomics and price.

    So I'd like to ask first the follow up question to the folks who fired both an XD .45 and a G 45 gap: what difference is there in the handling?

    Then this second question who fired XD .45 and 1911: how close has the XD 45 come to be the successor of the 1911?
     
  4. das028

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    First of all, let me say that although this is my first post in this forum, I am not a newbie when it come to firearms.

    Anyway when comparing a glock to an xd, there a some things you have to take into consideration.

    One is that glock is a tried and true design. It has been proven in the field time and time again, he xd is a relativley new pistol. So consider that.

    Another is the finish on the xd. I have heard, and I repeat HEARD, that the finish is not as durable. They tend to rust easily. Glocks do not.

    But to say one pistol is better than another, is a personal preference. You really cant go wrong with choosing any big name in firearms. Sig, S&W, Ruger, H&K, etc.......

    Now my person a opinion is that glocks are probably the best all around pistol money can buy. And if I had to choose one gun it would a glock in 9mm. Specifically a G19.
     
  5. Phantom Warrior

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    I have a couple Glocks and have shot my friend's XDs. I would rate them both as excellent handguns. I'm more comfortable with Glocks, personally, but I see no reason you should avoid XDs. Go with whichever one fits you better.
     
  6. Demiurge

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    It was easy for me to choose an XD over a Glock.
     
  7. choochboost

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    I prefer the feel and grip angle on the XD but prefer the trigger on the Glock. The reset on the XD is too long.
     
  8. Ala Dan

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    The Springfields finish problems have been addressed and hopefully
    corrected, with the introduction of the new Melonite finish on the
    XD-.45 ACP from Springfield Armory~! It is suppose to be much like
    the Tennifer Process used on Glock's.:cool: :D

    Edited to add: I own only one polymer frame pistol, and guess what
    it is,- Give up~? Of course, its the Springfield .45 ACP X-treme Duty
    4" service model~!

    Would I take a Glock if someone gave me one? You bet, and I would
    sure be proud of it~! Good weapon, and its been around a long time.
     
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  9. XDKingslayer

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    I can see some people need to get caught up on XD info.

    Just because the Glock has been around longer than the XD doesn't make it any better. The XD has passed the same reliability tests and even harder tests than the Glock, if that means anything. They both have about the same reliability.

    The new XD .45 ACP has a new coating that is completely different than the older XDs. The new melonite finish is essentially the same thing as the Glock tennifer finish, and it's more of a treatment than a finish. Finish problems are gone with the new XD and hopefully Springfield will trickle it down to the older models.

    If you want to compare the two it usually comes down to price and comfort. As far as price goes I have yet to see a NIB Glock priced less than a NIB XD of the same size and caliber.

    The only thing you can really compare them mechanics wise is that some models of Glock do not have fully supported barrels and all XDs do. And the grip safety, but some like it, some don't.

    yy,

    I have fired the XD .45 ACP, a 1911, and I own a XD .45 GAP. Comparing the GAP and ACP is impossible in my eyes. I couldn't tell the difference once I put my stock guide rod and spring back in. It felt like I was shooting the same weapon. I couldn't notice any recoil difference, slide action difference, anything. I may be a bad person to do the comparison as after about 50 rounds through anything begining with a 4 my hands start to go numb from carpal tunnel.

    As far as comparing the new XD with a 1911, it's pretty much pointless. In my opinion the XD is hands down a better firearm, but you'll have the hard-core 1911 guys that will never agree with that. I think the XD shoots better, runs better, holds more rounds, and is more comfortable out of the box than any bottom end 1911 like a Springer GI. Sure you could go to a more expensive 1911 that will perform as well, but then you're comparing an $800 firearm to a $500 firearm and that just isn't fair in my book.
     
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    "Just because the Glock has been around longer than the XD doesn't make it any better. The XD has passed the same reliability tests and even harder tests than the Glock, if that means anything. They both have about the same reliability."

    XDKingslayer,

    Do you have a link or something that proves this
     
  11. RNB65

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    I've shot XD's extensively in both .40 and 9mm. I've shot Glocks enough to know that I much prefer the XD. XD's fit my hand and Glocks do not. I also find the SA trigger pull on the XD much easier to shoot accurately than the DA trigger on the Glock. Finally, I've read enough about accidental discharges with Glocks to appreciate the grip safety on the XD. Both are superb home defense handguns.
     
  12. das028

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    I dont think the xd'x are single action.

    Glocks arent a true double action either
     
  13. Euclidean

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    The XD pistols are in fact, single action pistols. However, out of the box at least, I do not think that either them or Glock have a "better" trigger, different, maybe, but not "better".

    In response to the original question, I prefer the XD myself for reasons already mentioned. The Glock is just as good though, just depends on which one you prefer.

    I would agree with the statement the Glock and the XD have about the same reliability. I currently have 4 XD's and they all run just fine out of the box, just like 4 typical Glocks will.

    I don't remember the specific rag or issue, but there's been at least one and I think two 20,000 round torture tests of the XD series. I remember in one case the XD was submerged in a bucket of mud for a couple of days, cleaned up with a garden hose, and then fired 1000 rounds without fail. Good enough for me.

    I really don't get where people have this idea the XD is new and unproven. It's just the HS2000 being imported by somebody who knows how to market and sell it. It's been around longer than W has been president and I've never heard of a reliability issue with the platform since its inception.

    You could argue it's got a better track record for sheer reliability than .40 S&W caliber pistols from at least two other makers whom I shall not name, and the vast majority of them run like a top of the box, and I can't say that for a certain beloved shooting platform which shall also remain nameless.
     
  14. Tim Burke

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    I like the XD 45 better than the Glock 21.
    Shoot both, and then you'll know which you prefer.
     
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    What's wrong with owning both brands?

    I do. And I like both of them, though the Glock is a compact 10mm (not a full-size .45).

    Shot both the XD45 and several Glocks and decided it was time to have some myself.

    I think that between the XD45 and the G21 there is no comparison. The SA XD wins hands down.
     
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    The grip feels slimmer on the XD-45 over the G30.

    Other than that, the Glock has a better trigger. That's my take anyway.
     
  17. Newton

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    The XD has a slimmer grip that is much less blocky, the grip angle is also superior to a Glock.

    The grip safety gives me much more comfort than the plain Glock style trigger alone. For me the XD is also more reliable, the Glocks I have shot were all susceptible to limp wristing, not so the XD.

    With the improved grip, the grip safety, improved reliability and loaded chamber indicator, the XD is basically an evolved Glock.

    So yes, it's a better weapon. The new XD45 Service (4" bbl) especially.

    Just my 2 cents though, some will always prefer Glock. Ultimately I think it's what you're used to.
     
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    I must be getting old - never thought I'd one day be watching from the sidelines at guys debating which of 2 plastic pistols are more reliable and proven than the other :D
     
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    I prefer single action 1911's and my XD's to a Glock. I can shoot these two better than I can a Glock. So is an XD better than a Glock, in my hands it is, in your hands, maybe. One pistol doesn't fit all hands and shooters. I think they are reliable pistols and both have a proven this. As stated before, the XD is really the HS2000 imported by Springer. Springer has the marketing thing down, combine that with a pistol that's a joy to shoot and you have a winner. As for single action/double action, the XD is single action. A Glock has the striker partially charged and the trigger pull actually completes charging the striker and then releases it. Which is safer? Neither in the hands of a someone not practicing safe handling. The grip safety on XD has not caused any issues with me, of course I'm used to 1911's so it's no big deal. Shoot them both and decide which one fits best. Glock does have great aftermarket support, but in time the XD will catch up.
     
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    I haven't owned my XD long enought to really say I like it as much or better than my 1911's, but aftering only shooting it a few times...I just might. The gun is awsome. I'm not a huge fan of Glocks so I can't really say if they're better or worse. Just don't like the Glock's.
     
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    I have shot some Glock's & felt O.K. with them but I like the feel of my XD's much better. To each his own!
     
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    The XD gets the same number of rounds into a smaller grip frame, then you add in the new finish, better ergonomics, and better trigger. I think the XD is the best Hi-Cap plastic 45 ACP value on the market.
     
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    The grip feels slimmer on the XD-45 over the G30.

    If you ask me, the grip on the XD 45ACP feels slimmer than a Glock 19, a compact 9x19.

    I haven't fired the XD 45ACP, but I'm itchin' to.

    jmm
     
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    For me the Glock is a better gun. Plus, i have a 10mm preference and the XD doesn't come in 10mm...so... Glock it is!
     
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    I have owned both and much prefer the XD.
     
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