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NFA and Folding Stocks?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Dain Bramage, Jul 31, 2004.

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  1. Dain Bramage

    Dain Bramage Member

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    I have heard that folding stock rifles are measured with stocks extended for the 26" minimum overall length rule. Otherwise, M1 Carbines with folders would fall under the NFA as short rifles. However, I can't find this exception anywhere on the ATF website, or in the NFA regulations listed there.

    Can anyone tell me if this is true, and if so, a reference to the regulation?

    This is a hot topic on AK sites, concerning folders after the AWB sunsets, but I have not seen a definitive answer. Some 16" barrelled AK folders would be about 25" in length with the stock retracted.
     
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    The rifle has to be longer than 26" with the stock extended.
     
  3. Dain Bramage

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    Yes, I understand. But where does it actually say that?

    The NFA description of a short rifle doesn't mention folding stocks at all.
     
  4. c_yeager

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    I think we had a thread about this very question just last week. I don't think anyone could provide specific citations of law though. I think this is because the definition of an AOW as applied to folding stocks is arbitrarily decided by the ATF on a case by case basis. I've never seen a case where a folding stocked rifle's OAL was measured in any other way than with the stock extended.
     
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    Looks like 27 cfr 479.11
    I'm guessing that 'extreme ends' are not reached when a stock is not extended. But my guess isn't a citation to an exact quotation from any law.
     
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    As far as I know, it is not codified. According to Bardwell, the measurement is taken with the stock extended and is legal provided "the stock is not readily removeable and the weapon is designed to be fired from the shoulder."
     
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