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NFA rejects my Form 4, d'oh!

Discussion in 'NFA Firearms and Accessories' started by Cesiumsponge, Jan 5, 2013.

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  1. Aaron Baker

    Aaron Baker Member

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    Let's not get too excited here. Menaceman is confused. The checkboxes on a Form 1 are supposed to be filed out by him, not the CLEO. The CLEO just signs. He didn't check any checkboxes because they're not for him to check.

    Read the form... it says "Are you" above the checkbox questions.

    So he didn't do anything wrong.

    Aaron
     
  2. BemidjiDweller

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    My inexperiance with form 4/1's is showing :eek: from what was typed, made it seem like the CLEO is meant to check them off. Of course, that was an assumption on my part, and I apologize.
     
  3. Aaron Baker

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    That's okay. It seemed like Menaceman was confused as well.
     
  4. MenaceMan47

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    I remember the CLEO here checked those boxes on my form 4 for my AOW years back. Oh well, was nice of him to do that for me :p
     
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  5. Mtnvalley

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    I've both had a few kicked back, AND had one transfer that showed why IMHO one DOES need to call every few weeks, after perhaps 90 days.

    The ones kicked back were in two cases due to error on our end, in another it was a NIB gun that had two previous F3's transferring it...with what ATF believed to be the wrong barrel length. Yet another had the serial number of record matching an entirely different made/model (not a bogus remade M11, this was a SBS).

    In all cases except that SBS, I had an approved F4 back within a few weeks after sending in the corrected paperwork. Whether this represents "SOP" or not, I cannot say...but that seems to be the general report online from others as well.

    As for the need to call ATF occasionally to check up...well, I had a case where I bought a MG from a well-known dealer, who was brokering the sale for an individual who still held the gun during transfer to my dealer. (Bear in mind that approved F4s go to the transferror of record.)

    I had my dealer call ATF (as I usually do) 30 days after check cashed, just to get a pending date. I then waited, without asking him to calla again for some months (transfer was to him, so I couldn't call myself).

    Imagine my reaction when I had him call in April, and learned that the %^&* transfer had been approved in January! The seller claims he never got it, the brokering dealer didn't know squat, nor did my guy. It took ANOTHER month after that to get a "replacement" F4 sent to the seller and get the gun...almost five months after transfer had been approved.

    One doesn't have to "be that guy who calls every week"...but I won't again be that guy who doesn't call for months. I now call (or have my dealer call if it's the front end of a double) after 90 days, and every month thereafter. JMHO.
     
  6. Cesiumsponge

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    At the risk of sounding lazy, what's the number that people are referring to for checking up on the current status of a Form 4 submission, and is there a certain division or department I ask for, and what information do I need to have on-hand to provide them?

    I haven't heard any updates on my situation yet. No news is definitely not good news. I want my form back and stamped.
     
  7. Aaron Baker

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    The number is 304-616-4500. Tell them you're checking on the status of a Form 4 and they'll want the serial number.

    If you need more information than the person who answers the phone can give you, you can ask for your examiner.

    Aaron
     
  8. mcg-doc

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    Serial number of your firearm and your name or the name of your trust.

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. Cesiumsponge

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    I should probably update this thread. It was approved on 1-16-13 after the delay. That took a while from the April purchase and Form 4 submission in June upon arrival to my SOT.
     
  10. OcelotZ3

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    I had mine kicked back twice, and it only took a week or so for each turn once I submitted the changes. So yes, it takes them about 5 months to get to your form, but once they do they will deal with any updates quickly.
     
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