NH: Activist open carries into cop-shop

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  1. zombienerd

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    That is against the law.

    There is no age requirement for the NH Pistol/Revolver license.

    I haven't met anyone under 18 with a permit, but I'm told that a local 14 year old was granted one, but can only carry when with a parent/guardian, as it is against federal law for a minor to possess a pistol without an adult present. (Source not verified, so take it with a grain of salt)

    If the Sheriff denies you, please contact your district court, they will force the issue and get you your permit.

    On a side note, there's also no age limit for open carry. Technically, a 6 year old could open carry a loaded pistol as long as they were with a parent/guardian, for the same reason listed above.
     
  2. zombienerd

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    For FIVETWOSEVEN:

    So, if you are denied after application, you can take the department to court, and they will have to pay all fees incurred.

    Link to official application:
    http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/nhsp/documents/dssp85.pdf

    Print it out, fill it out, bring it with $10 to your local station, and hand it in. If you don't have your license in 14 days or less, you can go to the station and politely demand it. If they refuse, then you have a case.

    Under "For what reason(s) do you make application to carry a pistol in New Hampshire?" Write "All Lawful Purposes" Nothing else is required.
     
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  3. FIVETWOSEVEN

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    I just got told by my friend today that he said no one under 21 gets a permit, no exceptions. Didn't realize that they would have to pay for the fees. Maybe I could print that out with those parts highlighten and let him know that if I don't my permit, I'm making a case. Can you provide direct links to what you posted, prefferably if it was from the NH.gov website.
     
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    Definitely go for it, if he is turning down people under 21 he's absolutely in violation. The permit law has a built in appeal, he has 14 days to deny or issue and if he denies you can get a hearing in no more than 14 days. Won't cost much and you don't have much to lose.
     
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    Well, there's always politeness to consider.

    I have family in VT. When I started carrying there, I went to the PD and asked about carry (which I had already researched). The officer I talked to politely said the "no schools or courthouses" rules (he left out "state institutions") and added, "and we'd appreciate if you didn't carry into this station." No "you can't"--just "we'd appreciate."

    So I don't carry there (not that I have much cause to go into the PD).

    I understand that carrying into a PD is apparently also legal under NH law; and that a rights demonstration is not about politeness. But I'm just wondering, what earlier actions on the part of the Manchester PD were felt to require such an in-your-face response?
     
  6. basicblur

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    What part was "in-your-face"?
    Exercising their right to keep and bear, or filming?
    I've never understood why folks go ballistic over someone filming them in the course of their everyday job (unless of course, you're doing something you shouldn't be).

    Reminds me of my old troubleshooting days at work-some of my co-workers really hated it when folks were looking over their shoulder. Never bothered me-I often even explained to the operator what I was doing and why.

    Mebbe it comes down to a lack of confidence in oneself and/or what they're doing?
     
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    That quoted text of mine is from page 2 of the application, right from the link on the NH.gov website I linked.
     
  8. Loosedhorse

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    Could be either, or both.

    If the only goal here was exercising rights, how about calling up and saying, "Hi, I'm so-and-so, and I need to visit your station today. I usually carry a firearm openly and legally, and I plan to do that today when I show up. I wasn't sure if you're used to that at the station so I thought I'd call first to avoid any problems." That would be polite--but perhaps politeness is an outdated concept, judging from your question.

    If the response he got was: "You try that and we'll shoot you dead, and then arrest you!"--well, now I understand showing up with cameras and the like. If the response was, "Sure, thanks for the call," the why all the hoopla?

    What I suspect is there was no call, and this guy showed up hoping to provoke something: maybe for gun rights, maybe for yucks and fame on youtube.

    Rights are important, but one isn't required to exercise them without simple consideration for others...even if those others wear blue.
     
  9. Art Eatman

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    Not much actual discussion here of any pertinent law...
     
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