Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by ratt_finkel, Mar 5, 2011.
this pistol safe to the nightstand is something to be admired. Now the wife wants one for hers.
Moral of the story, don't hand your infant a loaded gun.
He didn't have to rack the slide, his father had just fired it, thus chambering another round.
I have a 4 year old son and he learned THREE years ago to not touch guns without daddy present. But he is an exceptionally good and smart child.
I do think a handgun safe might be in order in the coming years though.
I agree with gun-proofing your kids, but gun-proofing their friends is much more difficult. This is where something like a Gun Vault is valuable.
1. Keep all other guns in the safe.
2. Keep SD gun on your person.
3. Or...on those rare occasions...use the +1 system.
For instance, you if believe that keeping your handgun on the top shelf is enough to keep it away from your 8 month old child, add ONE MORE layer of protection: perhaps use a special retention holster or keep the chamber empty.
What ever your system for keeping your SD arms from kids...add ONE MORE layer of protection than you think you might need.
If you think that teaching your 10 year old about guns is "good enough" to keep him from playing with that loaded gun in your den....well...add ONE MORE layer of deterrent. (By the way...kids...no matter how educated...are still kids.)
Where I keep weapons
I have had to deal with this issue for years. I also know from experience that complex solutions often fail badly when stress is added to the mix. Experience has also shown me that I will get nervous when when forced into a life threatening situation. I can not count of being in top form.
This is not the same as when I was in the Army. I was able to remain calm and focused despite the incoming rounds. Maybe being with other armed soldiers helped. Also, our rules of engagement were not the same... we did not worry the police or prosecutors.
Somewhere, I try to find a workable solution that accounts for my 6 curious children, my anti-gun wife and my requirement to be ready.
I like big powerful service size firearms, but I also carry concealed during the day. For now, I carry my mouse gun (Kahr P380) and it is easy to keep it away from the kids and does not alarm the wife. When the kids are asleep and I go to bed, I get my Glock 20 out and keep it by my bed, in a container without a lock, and with the door locked.
I know the locked case would slow me down too much.
Becareful with our future...........
too many accidents around the world....lock those guns up around kids
So you're saying he's a brat BRAT. Which incidentally sounds like a burst from a machine gun.
There's no children in my home (I WAS the child, but I'm long an adult now) so it's not an issue here. I just keep my guns where it's convenient. Got a P-64 on my hip and a holstered Tokarev sitting next to me. My dad always kept them up high in the closet and I knew I was never to touch that shelf. If I had kids, though, I'd go with a biometric safe. Nice thing about those, besides fast access, is you can also set it up so multiple family members can access it. No keys, no combination, no problem.
Through college and building a career, I got out of guns. I've now got two boys and I've debated long and hard about how to safely have both kids and guns in the house. I like one, I love the other.
I've always had my shotgun and one rifle that dad built for me but, when I bought another handgun, I also bought a safe to put it, and all my ammo into it. My oldest son goes to the range with me and shoots my 22lr revolver. My youngest (5 years old) shoots the bb gun. They're learning about guns and how to handle them. I've already considered that when they get old enough, shooting could easily become something that keeps us close. My dad went to the range the other day with me. The first time he's shot a gun in over 25 years. It would be neat to have both dad and my oldest son at the range, three generations of shooters.
Gun safety is a MUST, but each situation must be handled in a very personal, sober way. I've seen little kids that were safe around guns and teenagers that I wouldn't let handle a rubber band pistol.
When they get older I will corrupt them, I can tell which one is the shooter already.
I would agree with this one. From my own experience as a youngster, top shelf of closet, between the matresses, hidden in your underwere, there is no where in a normal house you can "hide" a gun that a determined child won't eventually find it. Safetly training and stern warnings are good, too, but children are children and are not always cognizent of the ramifications of their actions or their own mortality. Locking up all your guns is the only way to be sure they don't get their little hands on one.
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