No Ebay - Where Will You Buy Online Now?
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glockman19
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I've never used E-bay my wife however has. I use gunbroker to shop bu call direct to the merchant for a sale. www.budsgunshop has great prices quick delivery and friendly people, Brandon, Derek, Beth et al. They also offer a GE Money Sport credit card with NO payments & NO interest for 90 days on purchases over $200. Quite the deal since there isa lag time for most between ordering and shooting for the first time. For my last purchase they sent the gun to my FFL in 3 days priority mail now another 10 and it's mine so 77 days for me.
MrDig
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I voted for all three since I use them anyway and rarely if ever use Ebay.
hapuna
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I have always bought on GlockTalk. Generally trustworthy folks that sell stuff as described for reasonable prices.
brighamr
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I have an idea
but I need people to help me. How about the THR forum compile a list of ALL internet\mail order sites and shops? This would make future buying and selling a whole lot easier....
And yes, I wrote ebay telling them they will be losing my 147 annual sales. It wont hurt them much, but if enough sellers go elsewhere at least they'll feel it.
but I need people to help me. How about the THR forum compile a list of ALL internet\mail order sites and shops? This would make future buying and selling a whole lot easier....
And yes, I wrote ebay telling them they will be losing my 147 annual sales. It wont hurt them much, but if enough sellers go elsewhere at least they'll feel it.
Kacerdias
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Rather than dealing with Ebay, I'd much rather buy my firearms related items at a locally owned shop where I know the guys behind the counter aren't scamming me and will make it right should something go wrong.
If Ebay wants to shoot themselves in the proverbial foot, let 'em.
If Ebay wants to shoot themselves in the proverbial foot, let 'em.
Harley Quinn
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I voted "other" for I never know when I'll run across a good deal and buy.
The fact is I should be selling now since I am in the fall of my years.
HQ
The fact is I should be selling now since I am in the fall of my years.
HQ
R.W.Dale
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Where is this UTOPIA located? Round here you're just as likely to get scammed over a counter top as over the web
skinnyguy
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Gunbroker most often, have used AuctionArms, and TRIED to use gunsamerica, but the person I attempted to deal with was an idiot, I know it's not GA's fault, but it kind of turned me off to that place.
I have bought holsters, barrels, grips, and other assorted gun parts on Ebay. I am not going to just close my account, as I plan to compose a thoughtful message in the coming days to urge not making the changes. I also still have some Jeep parts and a book inbound, and need to maintain the account until these things are delivered, in case of problems that need to be resolved. I do, however, plan to quit Ebay on principle if the changes happen. I have no experience with the other sites, so did not vote in the poll. I am hopeful that at least one of the other sites can successfully absorb the firearms-related business formerly conducted on Ebay. Or, perhaps one of the bigger dealers on Ebay will open a rival auction site.
Finch
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It was inevitable. The only thing Ebay accomplished by their silly socialist action was to allow other internet auction sites to garner more business. This is is an email I received from Auction Arms:
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Dear Valued AuctionArms customer:
You may have heard the recent news or received a message from EBay that they have taken yet another anti-Second Amendment position (their first was in 1999 when they abandoned their firearms sellers) . They are now, once again, abandoning their good and faithful customers who sell firearms parts, ammunition reloading components and reloading gear. Here is that announcement:
***Message from Matt Halprin – New Listing Restrictions on Gun Parts***
July 30, 2007 | 10:00AM PST/PT
Matt Halprin
Hello everyone…In mid-August, we will be updating our Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy to place more restrictions around gun-related items. Once these changes take effect, we will prohibit listings of any firearm part that is required for the firing of a gun. This includes items like bullet tips, brass casings and shells, barrels, slides, cylinders, magazines, firing pins, trigger assemblies, etc. Please read the Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy for more details on our current policy.
As you may know, eBay does not allow the listing of any items which are regulated by individual states or the federal government; however, there are still a large number of firearm-related parts that are legal and are widely available in retail stores. These items have also historically been allowed on eBay.
After learning that some items purchased on eBay may have been used in the tragedy at Virginia Tech in April 2007, we felt that revisiting our policies was not only necessary, but the right thing to do. After much consideration, the Trust & Safety policy team – along with our executive leaders at eBay Inc. – have made the decision to further restrict more of these items than federal and state regulations require.
This new update continues to encourage safety among our community members and brings our policies in the U.S. and Canada in closer alignment with our existing policies in other markets around the globe.
Sincerely,
Matt Halprin
Vice President, Trust & Safety
We strongly disagree with eBay’s stance on the 2nd Amendment in general and specifically in their lackadaisical abandonment of their long and faithful customers. We think it is unconscionable. But hey, it’s their right, and we love them for helping us continue to build our business!
While eBay may have disdain for the 2nd Amendment rights of it’s customers, we here at Auctionarms believe you should be able to sell any legal item you may care to, especially firearms, firearms parts, ammunition, ammunition components and reloading gear…how else are you going to defend yourself against mad men and the evildoers who stalk innocents in those politically correct “gun free” zones?!
We believe you should have the right to sell these items in a free and open market. We believe you should have the right to be free from fear of abandonment by a online sales venue that you've invested your time and money in to create profit for them and a reputation and goodwill for yourself.
We have proudly built our business and reputation on firearms. We have for almost 10 years now. We will continue to do so. We will not abandon our customers at the whim of some misguided, liberal minded, political correctness. That is our pledge.
We invite all abandoned eBay seller to move your firearms, firearms parts, ammunition, ammunition reloading components and reloading gear immediately to AuctionArms. Show eBay you can abandon them as quick as they abandon you and move to the BEST place on the internet for firearms and firearms related auctions!
We will make this solemn pledge to you. WE WILL NEVER ABANDON OUR CUSTOMERS WHO ARE SELLING LEGAL ITEMS, NEVER”.
We pride ourselves on customer service. We freely publish phone numbers through our “Contact Us” link that appears on every page. (find a customer service phone number on eBay!). We have real folks in the good old USA to talk to when you call those numbers. We care about our customers and about the rights of our customers to fully enjoy their rights under the Second Amendment.
Top 10 Reasons to move to AuctionArms:
1. We won't abandon you, ever.
2. No Listing Fees: There are never any fees to list an auction at AuctionArms and our selling commissions are much lower.
3. Free sign-up: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we will eat the sign-up fee for new abandoned sellers moving from Ebay (normally $4)
4. Free Auctions: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we won't charge you for any Final Value Fees (sales commissions for the first month if you disclose your eBay seller’s nickname) in order to ease the transition and reward you investing in our learning curve.
5. Free Special Features: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we will give you free Special Features for your first month.
6. Free over 200 Items listings: We will arrange to waive fees for added auctions if you list more than 200 items at a time. Just let us know.
7. Feedback Credit: We will credit your Ebay Feedback record towards becoming a Penny Auctioneer (a highly popular and successful feature on our site).
8. Retained eBay recognition: We will provide recognition of your eBay earned feedback status and use of your eBay nickname (when available) in order for you to salvage some of your hard earned goodwill and reputation.
9. Free Introductions: We will send an email letter of introduction to your past buyers at eBay, (you'll need to confidentially provide us with an emailing list) introducing them to your account at AuctionArms.
10. Special Discounts: We'll provide you with special discounts based on fees payment history with eBay for firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear (we'll need you to confidentially disclose payment history with eBay to us to qualify for this benefit).
11. Familiar categories: To assist eBay’s newly abandoned sellers in moving their auctions to AuctionArms, we have reproduced their categories for firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear so that they will be easily familiar to you.
12. Support for pro-gun rights: For every abandoned seller that signs up with us in the month of August, We will be donate $ to the NRA Foundation.
OK, I lied, there are 12. As always we like to add special value for our sellers.
How can we offer all this free stuff? Well, we are so confident that once you use AuctionArms to connect to our international customer base of like minded firearms enthusiasts and see how well we work for you, you will like what you see and stay with us. You'll generate future sales and commissions and we'll all win. How can you loose…frankly, you can't!
If you've received this message and are not an eBay seller, but have purchased these sorts of items from eBay sellers, do them and yourself a favor. Forward this message on to them. Help insure you will continue to enjoy a broad selection of firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear through the convenience of the internet and at a Second Amendment friendly site!
Thanks for taking the time to read this message and thanks for being a customer at the BEST place on the internet for firearms auctions. We appreciate your business and look forward to many years of providing you with unparalleled service.
Spread the Gospel!
Manny DelaCruz
Chief Executive Officer
AuctionArms.com, Inc.
The BEST place on the internet for firearms auctions!
----------------------------------------------------
Dear Valued AuctionArms customer:
You may have heard the recent news or received a message from EBay that they have taken yet another anti-Second Amendment position (their first was in 1999 when they abandoned their firearms sellers) . They are now, once again, abandoning their good and faithful customers who sell firearms parts, ammunition reloading components and reloading gear. Here is that announcement:
***Message from Matt Halprin – New Listing Restrictions on Gun Parts***
July 30, 2007 | 10:00AM PST/PT
Matt Halprin
Hello everyone…In mid-August, we will be updating our Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy to place more restrictions around gun-related items. Once these changes take effect, we will prohibit listings of any firearm part that is required for the firing of a gun. This includes items like bullet tips, brass casings and shells, barrels, slides, cylinders, magazines, firing pins, trigger assemblies, etc. Please read the Firearms, Weapons and Knives Policy for more details on our current policy.
As you may know, eBay does not allow the listing of any items which are regulated by individual states or the federal government; however, there are still a large number of firearm-related parts that are legal and are widely available in retail stores. These items have also historically been allowed on eBay.
After learning that some items purchased on eBay may have been used in the tragedy at Virginia Tech in April 2007, we felt that revisiting our policies was not only necessary, but the right thing to do. After much consideration, the Trust & Safety policy team – along with our executive leaders at eBay Inc. – have made the decision to further restrict more of these items than federal and state regulations require.
This new update continues to encourage safety among our community members and brings our policies in the U.S. and Canada in closer alignment with our existing policies in other markets around the globe.
Sincerely,
Matt Halprin
Vice President, Trust & Safety
We strongly disagree with eBay’s stance on the 2nd Amendment in general and specifically in their lackadaisical abandonment of their long and faithful customers. We think it is unconscionable. But hey, it’s their right, and we love them for helping us continue to build our business!
While eBay may have disdain for the 2nd Amendment rights of it’s customers, we here at Auctionarms believe you should be able to sell any legal item you may care to, especially firearms, firearms parts, ammunition, ammunition components and reloading gear…how else are you going to defend yourself against mad men and the evildoers who stalk innocents in those politically correct “gun free” zones?!
We believe you should have the right to sell these items in a free and open market. We believe you should have the right to be free from fear of abandonment by a online sales venue that you've invested your time and money in to create profit for them and a reputation and goodwill for yourself.
We have proudly built our business and reputation on firearms. We have for almost 10 years now. We will continue to do so. We will not abandon our customers at the whim of some misguided, liberal minded, political correctness. That is our pledge.
We invite all abandoned eBay seller to move your firearms, firearms parts, ammunition, ammunition reloading components and reloading gear immediately to AuctionArms. Show eBay you can abandon them as quick as they abandon you and move to the BEST place on the internet for firearms and firearms related auctions!
We will make this solemn pledge to you. WE WILL NEVER ABANDON OUR CUSTOMERS WHO ARE SELLING LEGAL ITEMS, NEVER”.
We pride ourselves on customer service. We freely publish phone numbers through our “Contact Us” link that appears on every page. (find a customer service phone number on eBay!). We have real folks in the good old USA to talk to when you call those numbers. We care about our customers and about the rights of our customers to fully enjoy their rights under the Second Amendment.
Top 10 Reasons to move to AuctionArms:
1. We won't abandon you, ever.
2. No Listing Fees: There are never any fees to list an auction at AuctionArms and our selling commissions are much lower.
3. Free sign-up: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we will eat the sign-up fee for new abandoned sellers moving from Ebay (normally $4)
4. Free Auctions: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we won't charge you for any Final Value Fees (sales commissions for the first month if you disclose your eBay seller’s nickname) in order to ease the transition and reward you investing in our learning curve.
5. Free Special Features: For abandoned Sellers signing up in August, we will give you free Special Features for your first month.
6. Free over 200 Items listings: We will arrange to waive fees for added auctions if you list more than 200 items at a time. Just let us know.
7. Feedback Credit: We will credit your Ebay Feedback record towards becoming a Penny Auctioneer (a highly popular and successful feature on our site).
8. Retained eBay recognition: We will provide recognition of your eBay earned feedback status and use of your eBay nickname (when available) in order for you to salvage some of your hard earned goodwill and reputation.
9. Free Introductions: We will send an email letter of introduction to your past buyers at eBay, (you'll need to confidentially provide us with an emailing list) introducing them to your account at AuctionArms.
10. Special Discounts: We'll provide you with special discounts based on fees payment history with eBay for firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear (we'll need you to confidentially disclose payment history with eBay to us to qualify for this benefit).
11. Familiar categories: To assist eBay’s newly abandoned sellers in moving their auctions to AuctionArms, we have reproduced their categories for firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear so that they will be easily familiar to you.
12. Support for pro-gun rights: For every abandoned seller that signs up with us in the month of August, We will be donate $ to the NRA Foundation.
OK, I lied, there are 12. As always we like to add special value for our sellers.
How can we offer all this free stuff? Well, we are so confident that once you use AuctionArms to connect to our international customer base of like minded firearms enthusiasts and see how well we work for you, you will like what you see and stay with us. You'll generate future sales and commissions and we'll all win. How can you loose…frankly, you can't!
If you've received this message and are not an eBay seller, but have purchased these sorts of items from eBay sellers, do them and yourself a favor. Forward this message on to them. Help insure you will continue to enjoy a broad selection of firearms parts, reloading components and reloading gear through the convenience of the internet and at a Second Amendment friendly site!
Thanks for taking the time to read this message and thanks for being a customer at the BEST place on the internet for firearms auctions. We appreciate your business and look forward to many years of providing you with unparalleled service.
Spread the Gospel!
Manny DelaCruz
Chief Executive Officer
AuctionArms.com, Inc.
The BEST place on the internet for firearms auctions!
Darkside852003
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The same places I always have, reputable dealers and factory direct.
To many scammers on ebay and other auction sites. With all the chinese knock off gun parts and optics out there, I am very careful where I spend my money.
To many scammers on ebay and other auction sites. With all the chinese knock off gun parts and optics out there, I am very careful where I spend my money.
MountainPeak
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I agree with 10 Ring TAO. Why would you want to support companies so blatantly anti-gun/2nd Amendment?
R.W.Dale
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I really like auction arm's response to the e-bay debacle. But for me as a buyer and seller AA is a non player. Their page layout and software makes it impossible to find ANYTHING and their volume is pitiful. The search "encore barrel' gets a whopping 9 hits. The same search on e-bay gets 108 hits and you get 377 on gunbroker. Granted most of the listings on gunbroker are corporate listings from large retailers.
wheelgunslinger
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Having just moved to a larger, more metropolitan area 
, I have a lot more options than I had previously with my local shop.
I'm going to keep my eyes peeled on the local classifieds and watch the forums for deals. I'm fed up with paypal too.
I may try some of the sites mentioned here, but generally, I'll keep it local.
, I have a lot more options than I had previously with my local shop. I'm going to keep my eyes peeled on the local classifieds and watch the forums for deals. I'm fed up with paypal too.
I may try some of the sites mentioned here, but generally, I'll keep it local.
tecrsq
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All of the above as well as gun forums I frequent.
357goBOOM
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FM12 said:
That is also what makes me bale out of midwayusa and cheaperthandirt and leave my shopping cart to rot in the cyber. They make up for their attractive prices by trying to gaff me with exorbitant shipping and "handling" fees.
357goBOOM
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We have one particular gun shop with good prices. I prefer to check there first. Usually, they're the best deal since I'm not paying them to ship.
Glockman17366
Member
I never used eBay for firearms related items anyway...so, no loss.
I'll use various firearms sites for ammo and accessories.
As far as firearms, I only buy locally.
I'll use various firearms sites for ammo and accessories.
As far as firearms, I only buy locally.
Here's an alternative to the 3 choices - Proxibid. http://www.proxibid.com/asp/Home.asp
This site links you to a variety of auctions, and you can do a search to find firearms related ones. most apear to be real time bidding, but you can pre-bid to your maximum just like on ebay.
There's one on 8/27 that looks especially good http://www.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=8026
Check out the BBQ guns (#s 265-267)
This site links you to a variety of auctions, and you can do a search to find firearms related ones. most apear to be real time bidding, but you can pre-bid to your maximum just like on ebay.
There's one on 8/27 that looks especially good http://www.proxibid.com/asp/catalog.asp?aid=8026
Check out the BBQ guns (#s 265-267)
America_without_liberals
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Personally I feel that the choices you give are horrible.
I won't deal on auction arms because of something you may find stupid. It's due to their requirement of a phone number. I see this as information that they do not need and could be given to sellers as they need it.
As for gunbroker, I haven't found one item on there that isn't over list price from the start.
So I guess I'll continue to waste my time scouring the net for the good deal.
I find the ebay article very humorous. What could the guy have bought from there under their previous rules to use at VA Tech, a friggin holster?
I won't deal on auction arms because of something you may find stupid. It's due to their requirement of a phone number. I see this as information that they do not need and could be given to sellers as they need it.
As for gunbroker, I haven't found one item on there that isn't over list price from the start.
So I guess I'll continue to waste my time scouring the net for the good deal.
I find the ebay article very humorous. What could the guy have bought from there under their previous rules to use at VA Tech, a friggin holster?
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ugaarguy
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So "Other - Please List" is a horrible poll option? Gotcha. If you don't buy online anyway why post here? If you do buy online, where do you prefer to buy? Please be civil, you've no need to be so rude when someone post a simple question which you don't even have to answer.
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