No Lock Smiths

I heard there was somebody that ordered and sold no lock Smiths. New ones. Talo maybe? Or somebody like that? If that is true, can someone point me in the direction? I understand the selection will probably be limited if they exist at all.

 

There are some J frames being made without the lock don't know which model's look on buds sight it will say "No lock" in the description. As far as i know only J frames.

 

Yeah, it was 340PD's I heard this in regards to. Thanks, I'll take a look there.

 

Current no lock S&Ws are hammer-less or are lemon squeezers with the built in grip safety

 

You can find the No-Lock Centennial style J-frames on S&W's website.

Last I remember seeing, they listed them (as newer alternative offerings) to the ILS (lock) models in the 442/642/M&P 340 model lines. (And then there's the reproduction of the M40/42 models without the ILS, of course, since they use the squeeze cocking safety mechanism.) Might be a couple of others I haven't tracked, since I don't really keep track of all the guns being made by them (or anyone else).

S&W's legal folks seem disinclined to approve production of No-lock revolvers with external hammers. I wouldn't hold my breath.

You can order the No-lock models that are part of their normal catalog easily enough, it seems (although I'd not be surprised if any number of regular retail gun dealers might not even know they're available).

FWIW, I used the excuse of the newest No-lock M&P 340 model being released to buy a second M&P 340.

Of course, I still find myself doing the bulk of my shooting with my first M&P 340 equipped with the ILS ... and carrying it most of the time, as well.

Yeah, I know, there are all manner of folks who abhor the ILS and are always ready to believe the internal locking system is going to fail and lock up the gun. Well, as a S&W revolver armorer I've had the chance to query the minds of any number of folks from the company, as well as a number of other owners, shooters and revolver armorers.

Not keeping me up at night.

If you want a No-lock S&W revolver (and have other ways to deny unauthorized persons access to the firearm), and you only want one of the company's Centennial J's, they're making them.

 

you can get a no lock, no MIM Smith if you go to the used market.

then you would really be ahead of the game

 

My 642 is a no lock bought from my local transfer dealer. His price was cheaper than Buds OTD.

 

I have a M&P 340 I bought W/O a lock. Cost big bucks though....

 

S&W is producing Centennial J frames in both .38 Special and .357 Magnum without the ILS. Those are the only S&W revolvers that are available like that and can be bought anywhere. (but probably have to be ordered by your dealer from their distributor)