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No Need to Pick on Our Friends in the UK for Examples of Big Government

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Jeff White, Jun 19, 2007.

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  1. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

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    When we have our own Seattle......
    http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov_topstories_070618_popcornban.15853656.html
    I am beginning to think that libertarianism is as much against human nature as communism is. Everyone wants to mind everybody else's business.
     
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    I can't see them banning it.


    Maybe, they'll just require a MPL (state-issued Microwave Popcorn License). Then they can make everybody that wants to microwave popcorn, attend a Basic Microwaving Popcorn Safety Course before they get their license. Of course, then all of the stores will have to register with the FDA or some such organization and the store workers will require two forms of ID, have to fill out Microwave Popcorn purchase forms, and call in for a background check before they can sell it to anyone.

    Of course, if you decide to jump through the hoops to actually get a MPL, it may or may not recognized in the other 49 states, so if you're on vacation, you'll have to check for that. If it actually comes to pass, I can almost guarantee that Connecticut, New York and New Jersey will be problem areas, so if you love popcorn, plan your trips carefully.
    :D
     
  3. Autolycus

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    Got to love sheeple and the idea of banning anything and everything.
     
  4. JohnBT

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    I wish somebody would ban it at my office. We have a couple of people who eat it for lunch and by the time they finish cooking it in our little lunchroom my food tastes like popcorn. And anything you heat in the microwave after they use it tastes like popcorn. And heaven help us when they wander off and burn it, which they manage to do frequently.

    The Mayo Clinic banned it years ago because the smell of hot popcorn wasn't fair to the patients who weren't allowed to eat prior to surgery or couldn't eat for medical reasons, etc.

    OTOH, it's not the government's job to deal with it.



    OR maybe it is. From the Wash Post:

    "Ortiz, 44, is among a group of California food-flavoring workers recently diagnosed with bronchiolitis obliterans, a rare and life-threatening form of fixed obstructive lung disease. Also known as popcorn workers lung, because it has turned up in workers at microwave-popcorn factories, the disease destroys the lungs. A transplant is the only cure.

    Irma Ortiz, 44, got popcorn workers lung at a California flavoring plant. She and her husband, Victor Mancia, hope she can get a lung transplant. (By Sonya Geis -- The Washington Post)

    Since 2001, academic studies have shown links between the disease and a chemical used in artificial butter flavor called diacetyl. Flavoring manufacturers have paid out more than $100 million as a result of lawsuits by people sick with popcorn workers lung over the past five years. One death from the disease has been confirmed."
     
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    "been several evacuations in recent years due smoke alarms being tripped by burning popcorn. "

    Maybe some person (not a machine) with INTELLIGENCE should verify the need to evacuate before actually doing it!!
     
  6. Jeff White

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    Dave, have you been counseled about the hazards of using logic when dealing with government? The frustration alone will give you PTSD. ;)

    Jeff
     
  7. trueblue1776

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    Huge solution to a small problem.

    meh heh he, it is all going according to plan! :evil:
     
  8. TallPine

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    Are they going to install popcorn detectors at every entrance ...???
     
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    Yeah, what about the thousands of Assault Popcorn Dealers. Gotta set up stings to catch'em dooin' the dirty deeds.
     
  10. HKUSP45C

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    While I normally love to get up in arms about things small government entities do ....

    There really are only two ways to handle this. Fire everyone who burns popcorn and sets off an alarm or ban popcorn.

    They aren't trying to ban the stuff because "it's bad for you" like New York and Trans Fats. They aren't trying to ban it bercause "it's bad for other people" like Washington State and indoor smoking. They aren't trying to ban it "because "it makes people feel uncomfortable" like MANY offices and gun pictures/paraphenalia.

    They are thinking of doing away with the priviledge of cooking popcorn at that particular place because a bunch of idiots are costing the state a pant load of money and lost productivity when they burn it.

    If someone verified that there was no need to evacuate when an alarm went off and someone died because there really was one .... well, good ol' Seattle would be out a small fortune after the law suits were settled.

    When a smoke alarm goes off in my building, we evacuate, period. Whether it was a bagle that set it off (actually happened) or a real fire. It just works that way here, heck it works that way EVERYWHERE I've ever worked.

    So, in closing, short of firing everyone who burns the popcorn on the first offense. Which would be a veritable law suit mine field all on it's own. The very simple and cheap solution is to tell people to pop their stuff at home and bring it to work in a ziplock.

    Let's not make mountains out of mole hills, they aren't putting pop-corn popping people into internment camps for "re-programming."
     
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    I think they're on the right track. I hate popcorn, it's dirty smelly, and not healthy, you could put it right up there with smoking. People who eat popcorn can't just eat it from the bag, they load it down with salt then a half pound of butter, which leads to artery clogging diseases. (sure does taste good tho)
     
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    Bloomberg will have his out of state agents makeing straw popcorn purchases within the month.
     
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    I would introduce the Popcorn Popper's License; special training, an application fee, background check - and tax 'em every couple of years to keep popping!
     
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    Just

    call them fire drills.
     
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    There is a third option - just do away with the microwave ovens.
     
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    Heh Heh Heh

    Popcorn owners Identification card POID
    single purchase a month would a six package count as one or six?
    How about the high capacity Sam's Club mega-pack?
    The Movie Theatre loophole!
    C and R for Jiffy-Pop?, or limit it to 1 pound bags?
    and what to do with the street vendors who will spring up in the seedier parts of town?
    Will Weekend sales be counted as "Saturday Night Specials"?

    I remember my Pa stating that "now it will never end"
    When they put flouride in the water.
    robert
     
  17. Mumwaldee

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    They better get tased and charged with a felony. Then they'll get in step.
     
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    It seems to me that the obvious solution is to have everybody in the building pool together and buy a commercial popcorn popper. Train a couple of employees how to use it properly, then fill the darn thing every morning.
     
  19. Sage of Seattle

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    I USED to be proud of my name... now I'm not so sure.... :uhoh: :scrutiny:
     
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    Zero-tolerance against popcorn. If it only saves us from having to make one phone call...
     
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    The commercial popper would be even worse. I know, my nightmare highschool job was at a movie theater. :eek:

    Seriously, an air popper is about the only solution that adequately deals with the issue of human stupidity without a ban.
     
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    I really don't see what the problem is here. Unless I'm totally reading the story wrong, the City of Seattle is just proposing a rule for city-owned buildings where city employees couldn't pop popcorn, due to a recurring problem. There's nothing in the story that suggests they want to ban popcorn from anywhere else.
     
  23. Mumwaldee

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    Look, popcorn is a real threat. They are a choking hazard...they give off noxious fumes when being "cooked"...and the fire hazard alone is good enough to ban these offensive kernels. Do the right thing...for America...or you're unpatriotic. And I'm not going to sit here and listen to you bad mouth the United States of America. :neener:

    *edited to add: as if I needed any more condemning facts against assault kernels...they really hurt people with diverticulitis.
     
  24. pcosmar

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    Just remove the battery in the break room.
     
  25. Don Gwinn

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    In all fairness, they're talking about banning it only in city-owned buildings, according to the article. Not exactly big government. This would be akin to, say, a car dealership banning microwave popcorn in the lounge.

    If Jeff White would get over his pathological hatred of police officers and government . . . .
     
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