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Someone at the ATF said bump sticks were legal...and then someone at the ATF said they were illegal machine guns.

What he says is logical, but it sure doesn’t seem to square with the law (which I have actually read) so you’re looking at a benefit/ risk calculation here. On the one hand you save $60 and some time. On the other hand you possibly risk a decade in prison, thousands of dollars in fines and lifetime loss of gun rights. I’ll bet you would happily pony up the 60 bucks if the ATF comes knocking.

You do know you don’t have to pay someone to do your engraving, right? You can do it yourself with an electric pencil or Dremel. Use a template and it looks OK. If you’re doing an AR you can just do the barrel and still be legal.
 
Your right it’s a ks47 it had a brace I just thought I’d upgrade I’ll just pay the 60 no sense cheaping out on something I’m going to own the rest of my life.
 
is this true? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thetruthaboutguns.com/do-you-need-to-engrave-your-form-1ed-sbr/amp/ It’s probably old news but it states that the author wrote the atf and they said you don’t need engraving until you go to sale the item. Personally i would love to go this route engraving will cost me $60 and the shop is 60 miles each way so if you think about it that’ll go along way towards my next stamp.
That "article" is rife with bad info and has been widely ridiculed.
Federal law says:
§479.102 How must firearms be identified?
(a) You, as a manufacturer, importer, or maker of a firearm, must legibly identify the firearm as follows:

(1) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed) or placed on the frame or receiver thereof an individual serial number. The serial number must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered, or removed, and must not duplicate any serial number placed by you on any other firearm. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of the serial number must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1⁄16 inch; and

(2) By engraving, casting, stamping (impressing), or otherwise conspicuously placing or causing to be engraved, cast, stamped (impressed), or placed on the frame, receiver, or barrel thereof certain additional information. This information must be placed in a manner not susceptible of being readily obliterated, altered or removed. For firearms manufactured, imported, or made on and after January 30, 2002, the engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) of this information must be to a minimum depth of .003 inch. The additional information includes:

(i) The model, if such designation has been made;

(ii) The caliber or gauge;

(iii) Your name (or recognized abbreviation) and also, when applicable, the name of the foreign manufacturer or maker;

(iv) In the case of a domestically made firearm, the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the manufacturer maintain your place of business, or where you, as the maker, made the firearm; and

(v) In the case of an imported firearm, the name of the country in which it was manufactured and the city and State (or recognized abbreviation thereof) where you as the importer maintain your place of business. For additional requirements relating to imported firearms, see Customs regulations at 19 CFR part 134.

(b) The depth of all markings required by this section will be measured from the flat surface of the metal and not the peaks or ridges. The height of serial numbers required by paragraph (a)(1) of this section will be measured as the distance between the latitudinal ends of the character impression bottoms (bases).

(c) The Director may authorize other means of identification upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this part.

(d) In the case of a destructive device, the Director may authorize other means of identifying that weapon upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that engraving, casting, or stamping (impressing) such a weapon would be dangerous or impracticable.

(e) A firearm frame or receiver that is not a component part of a complete weapon at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed of by you must be identified as required by this section.

(f)(1) Any part defined as a machine gun, muffler, or silencer for the purposes of this part that is not a component part of a complete firearm at the time it is sold, shipped, or otherwise disposed of by you must be identified as required by this section.

(2) The Director may authorize other means of identification of parts defined as machine guns other than frames or receivers and parts defined as mufflers or silencers upon receipt of a letter application from you, submitted in duplicate, showing that such other identification is reasonable and will not hinder the effective administration of this part.



As well as Question 4h on the Form 1:
4.h. Additional Description (Indicate required maker’s markings to include maker’s
name (as registered), city and state as each will appear on firearm)
 
If you, as a non-licensee, build a title I firearm, no, you do not need to mark it. Ever. Not even to sell.

If you make a title II NFA weapon, it absolutely must be engraved with maker, city & state, model and S/N.
 
The SBR markings (other than the serial number) can be placed on the barrel rather than the lower receiver. That would be a good solution if you later want to put a standard-length barrel on it and sell it as a Title I weapon. Your name and address on the lower receiver detracts from the resale value.
 
This is a 500 gun with a 200 stamp I really doubt I’ll sell it unless I move somewhere where I just can’t keep it. either way my engraving was done today by Quentin defense in Gilbert az took less than 15min and cost $35 couldn’t be happier. Thanks everyone for your input
 
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