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No Weapons allowed at Gun Show

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Ash, Apr 27, 2008.

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  1. Ash

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    An interesting circumstance existed this weekend at the Hattiesburg, MS gun show. It was held at the Forrest County Multi Purpose Building. On both the exterior doors, and the interior doors, in 12"x15" full color, were signs declaring that no weapons, either concealed or open, were allowed in the facility. On side of the text was a knife and on the other, a pistol, and both were in red circle-slash detailing the "no weapons" policy.

    Now, there I was, standing with my FAL, which very clearly was a weapon and it was very clearly exposed. What was my status entering into a gun show that was held in a building that was posted, by the county authority that manages the building, a no weapons policy?

    Catch 22

    I went in, any way.

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  2. Rachen

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    Maybe, when gun shows aren't held there, the building is used for conferences or exhibits of other things such as music and art. After all, it's a multi purpose public building. I think the sign was there for some other events.
     
  3. Ash

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    Yeah, but it made no distinction. I had no doubt that they would not enforce the no-weapons policy. It was a real oxymoron to see a photo of the gun show entrance sign next to a no weapons sign.

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  4. elrod

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    With, or without your gun? And what happened? If they enforced the "no guns allowed", it couldn't have been much of a gun show.
     
  5. Rachen

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    You should taken some pics. They would undoubtedly funny as hell. They can be used on this forum for the laughs, or someone can photoshop them further and use them to make political statements. I think Oleg Volk would have done some real magic with that photo:D:D
     
  6. Carl N. Brown

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    Most gun shows have a No Loaded Guns policy.

    Some venues where a gun show might be held may have a no weapons policy, but the definition of "weapon" may actually apply to the intent of the user rather than the object itself. That's how the "going armed" law works in Tennessee.

    You can take a gun to a gun show, but you cannot go armed for purposes of offense or defense at a gun show.
     
  7. bogie

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    There are no longer any gun shows in St. Louis City, after an "unloaded" gun went "bang" and ventilated someone's leg.
     
  8. RoadkingLarry

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    The big Wannemachers show in Tulsa has some dolt fail to engage his brain and execute a ND every couple of years. This spring a dealer had a loaded gun on his table and a potential customer picked it up and pulled the trigger. Luckily the only thing that got ventilated was the roof of the convention center. I understand the dealer was banned form future gun shows for a year.
     
  9. Ash

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    Well, you see, the Gun Show established the "No Loaded Guns" thing, both with signs and the police police officer doing the gun inspections - and tying off the guns with ribbon to reduce the chances of theft.

    But the Forrest County signs were permanent and made no mention of whether or not the firearms were loaded.

    Ash
     
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    My first thought too. Standing in a line, holding a FAL, under a big "no weapons" sign, is just kinda funny. Even better, is a whole bunch of people in the line, holding rifles, near the sign for the pic too.
     
  11. The Lone Haranguer

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    At Crossroads of the West shows, there are signs saying no cameras allowed. ;) At the ones held at the state fairgrounds, the weapon restriction is that of the fairgrounds themselves.
     
  12. XDKingslayer

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    Three options.

    1. The sign is always on the building because of multiple uses.

    2. The antis have finally found a way to close that pesky "gun show loophole".

    3. The dealers or presenters of the gun show did it to stop FTF sales and force people to buy dealer guns.

    I'll be nice and chose #1 simply to give them the benefit of the doubt.
     
  13. Ash

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    Well, as everyone I expects understands, this is a sign kept on the building permanently. Surely folks know this is more an example of needless gun free zone non-sense than anything deeper. It was more an illustration of absurdity than anything else.

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    This drives me nuts. The gun shows charge a fee for a concealed weapon permit class, and then they don't allow concealed weapons.

    "Hey, pay me $50 to learn to carry a gun anywhere (except here)"

    More than a few gun stores around here do it too.

    I know they do it for liability reasons, but it is still frustrating.

    I know that I CAN carry concealed there, but that if I am asked to leave because I am carrying and I don't leave, then I am trespassing.

    I refuse to do business with gun shops that don't allow permitted concealed weapons. If they have a sign stating no guns, I don't go in.
     
  15. mekender

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    here in NC, you cant carry a gun in ANY place that charges admission for entry... but they do have an exception for people that are participating in the event...
     
  16. Jim K

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    Sometimes the contradictions are, well, interesting. Like the famous sign on the gate of a town cemetery - "All persons found using firearms on these grounds will be prosecuted with the utmost rigor of the law."

    The town was Gettysburg, Pennsylvania and for a few days in July, 1863, the law was definitely violated, but there were no prosecutions.

    Then, when Pat Buchanan was running for president, he decided to attend a gun show. His supporters handed out signs on sticks so folks could wave them for TV. But the woman head of the secret service detachment, who was apparently expecting something like a museum, went berserk when she found out the place had tens of thousands of guns and hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo, plus knives, bayonets, etc. Not knowing what to do but fearful of being charged with failure to protect the candidate, she confiscated - the sign sticks.

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    Most shows banned cameras after anti-gun TV people showed up and used the show as a background for an anti-gun presentation. One such TV "personality" cut loose with a maniacal diatribe advocating gun bans, and describing those attending as "lunatics", "murderers" and "right wing fanatics".

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    The problem with that answer is how can you tell when the sign is supposed to be paid attention to?

    Obviously, not for gunshows. But what about carrying a realisic looking flintlock as the mascot of the "Rousing Rebels" socker team, what about packing in general at the Ski Swap

    A perminantly posted sign should be an absolute. Ah well, at least if someone ever gets into trouble for it, they can say 'but even the managment doesn't follow the sign, they have gun shows here all the time!'
     
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    Yeah it would be a kinda weird gun show:

    --Good morning sir, welcome to the gun show!
    --I was just reading Elmer Keith when I had a craving for some fusils a poudre.
    --Come again?
    --I want to buy some guns.
    --Well you've come to the right place for that sir, we've got..
    --No no I'm keen to guess. Do you have any Colts?
    --No sir.
    --Never mind. Never cared for their lockwork. Smith & Wessons?
    --Not today sir.
    --Not my lucky day is it. Rugers?
    --Normally sir, yes. But the van broke down.
    --Winchesters?
    --Yes.
    --Ah, well let's have a look at them. Sally forth with the percussive implements a la Winchester s'il vous plait.
    --Oh sorry sir, I thought you were calling me. Mr. Winchester, that's my name.
    --Savage?
    --No
    --Remington?
    --Not much call for them in these parts.
    --Not much call for them? They're the single most popular rifle in the country!
    --Not in these parts, sir.
    --What is the most popular firearm in these parts, pray tell?
    --Mossberg, sir.
    --Is it?
    --Yes they're staggeringly popular here squire.
    --Do you have any?
    --Nnnnnnn no sir
    --I see. Mannlicher-Schoenauer?
    --No
    --Mannlicher-Carcano?
    --Nope
    --Dutch Mannlicher?
    --Only on Thursdays sir.
    --Argentine Mausers?
    --No
    --Springfield 1903's?
    --Nope
    --M1 Garands?
    --Not at present.
    --Mosin Nagants?
    --Nope
    --Siamese Mausers?
    --No.
    --Japanese Arisakas?
    --Not right now.
    --Have you, in fact, any firearms at this gun show?
    --Yes sir! This is the best gun show in the state!
    --I'm going to ask you that question again, and if you say no I'm going to smack you in the head. Do you have any firearms?
    --No, they're not allowed in the building I'm afraid.
     
  20. Ash

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    Where is John Cleese when you need him...

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    The last gun show I went to had a no loaded guns policy, and a guy at the door asked if you were packing. If so, he asked you to unload, and then applied a zip tie.

    Funny about that sign on the door.
     
  22. IllHunter

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    Hey six...

    Hopefully he was wearing blue and had a shiny star on his chest.:D
     
  23. Flame Red

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    Least we forget our firend Fred Thomson who made the rounds at the Lakeland Fun show last year!

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  24. CAPTAIN MIKE

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    Similar Sign at Cashman Field

    Here in Las Vegas, we regularly have gun shows at Cashman Field. There are similar signs on the doors but if you bring your firearm anyway, there is a table where you 'check in' and have your firearm rendered non-firing by inserting one of those plastic ties through the chamber and the barrell. They look at your documentation, and you're on your way into the facility.
     
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    Does that sign have any legal meaning in Mississippi?
     
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