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non citizens owning firearms?

Discussion in 'Legal' started by ozhuntsman, Jan 29, 2011.

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  1. natman

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    It's a bit more complicated than that.

    http://www.atf.gov/publications/newsletters/ffl/ffl-newsletter-2008-11.pdf

    If you are a permanent resident (immigrant alien) (have a "green" card), you have to show ID, green card and proof of residency in the state for the last 90 days (utility bills, etc).

    If you are NOT a permanent resident (non-immigrant alien) it's a bit more complicated. You have to show proof of residency and have an exception, the most practical of which is a hunting license.

    The link shows FEDERAL requirements for residency, state requirements may vary. California, for example, will NOT accept bank statements as proof, even though the Feds will.
     
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  2. KodiakBeer

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    Here's a place to search for Alaska jobs. http://www.jobs.state.ak.us/

    I'd also google around to various companies within Alaska and look on their specific sites.
     
  3. crossrhodes

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    Yes you can "IF"

    You must be a legal permanent resident IE green card holder and have residency in the state you live in. You would provide you alien registration number along with the normal required information when you purchase a firearm. The I94 is not valid unless it's your temp green card with picture attached, while waiting for your original card to be issued to you. The ATF reg explain it pretty good and it's not clouded with lawyer terminology.
     
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    With very few exceptions, none of which are relevant to guns, states cannot regulate immigration and naturalization. Therefore states cannot pass gun laws specific to aliens. About all they can go is require documentation that a tourist/ short term visitor would not have time to get. However, if you can establish residence in a state and get a drivers license you should have no problems getting a Concealed Weapons Permit and possibly even NFA weapons depending on where you live.
     
  5. hermannr

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    Hunting and shooting? Go purchase a hunting license and enjoy. I'm pretty sure you can even do that in NY and MA.

    It is the undocumented aliens (no Visa, No Green Card) that are restricted. I was particularly speaking to CC when I wrote my first piece...sorry. Keep your nose clean, and reside in the "correct" state, as a green card you too can CC.
     
  6. hermannr

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    Sebasitian: The states can regulate concealed carry...oh yes they can, and do.
     
  7. AndyC

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    In my experience, it was no guns until 90 days after the issuance of the Green Card itself.
     
  8. KodiakBeer

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    The Green card merely provides legal residency, not citizenship. But legal residency is all you need to own guns. I don't know about carry laws in other states, but here in Alaska any legal resident can carry a concealed weapon.

    What I'm not sure about is bringing in the guns he already owns. He won't be a legal resident for some period, so...? I'm not sure what legal hoops he'd have to jump through, or if there are any?

    Maybe the guns have more value in Oz, and he'd be better off selling them there and buying what he wants here?
     
  9. oneounceload

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    Here in Florida, there is a lot of directional bore drilling going n for utility installation under the roads. Most are done by small companies who contract with the utilities. I will say, however, that the pay scale isn't 50-70 per hour as it appears to be in Alaska; more like 10-20...................but then we don't freeze our butts off 8 months a year.....:D

    Resident alien status will have you good to go
     
  10. hermannr

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    My experience with heavy equipment and directional drilling. Directional drilling is used a lot in the SE (I would assume also the NE) and pays more than just a regular backhoe operator, especially if you are working in the oil patch. Regular CDL truck driver can expect about $40k a year.

    However, North slope pays 3 to 4 times anything else,,,,if you can stand the isolation and weather. There are a lot of people here in WA that work the North Slope for 6 months and live down here for 6 months on the procedes of the 6 months working on the North Slope.


    The reason is, the tundra has to be frozen before they allow the rigs on it.
     
  11. crossrhodes

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    LPR

    If you are an LPR and have firearms you wish to bring to this country, need to fill out and submit ATF form 6 and then go talk to a customs broker for import into the states. If you meet the feds (ATF) requirements then you need to establish residency in the state you want to keep your fire arms. The state can not regulate IM laws but they can regulate firearm laws dealing with immigration status.
     
  12. dChris

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    he was talking about regulation with regard to immigrant status not regulation of concealed carry.
     
  13. theoldgoat

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    It depends on what type of work, oil field, utilities, etc. You would need to get a CDL (commercial Drivers License) to drive truck. You do not need to be a US citizen for that. We have all nationalities driving trucks on our highways. The oil field work in the mountain states is still in a boom and as long as the price of oil is at or over $100 a barrel it will be in a boom. If you don't mind working 10 days on / 10 days off or a week on / week off you can make some good money, $60k, $70k, $80k. The crude oil haulers make good money also.

    Many of the states are neck deep in road construction due to stimulus money. This will not go on forever.

    I don't think you would have a hard time getting a job in your field. You seem to be specialized in your field. Back hoe operators are plentiful. It is the drilling that will get you the kind of money you need or want. You can live quite well on $70k in the mountain west, central, and southern states.

    Texas might seem the most like home for you. They have one of the best if not the best economy right now and are very gun friendly. Arizona, Utah, Colorado are also very gun friendly. Alaska if you can handle cold weather and little to no day light in the winter (the lack of daylight in the winter would be a no-go for me). Wyoming is quite unique as is Montana. Both cold in the winter and very independent.

    Just stay off of both the west and east coasts or any of the blue states. Blue states are the ones that tend to lean to the left and have wacky gun laws.


     
  14. ozhuntsman

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    Thanks for all the posts, I'll have to come for a holiday first to find an area I like best.
     
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