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Non-firearm CQB weapon for the UK

Discussion in 'Non-Firearm Weapons' started by madmike, Apr 4, 2006.

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  1. madmike

    madmike Member

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    Chainsaws having been ruled out, I do have .68 cal hard plastic and glass pellets to fit paintball guns....
     
  2. JShirley

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    I'm not sure if they're still available, but I noticed several years ago that pepper balls for .68 paintball markers, along with UV paint-filled balls, were available. Last time I looked, sales of the pepper balls were restricted to LEO (in US).

    Would seem to be an effective less-lethal non-firearm standoff tool.

    Unsure about legalities/availabilities in UK.

    John
     
  3. madmike

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    Definitely illegal for civvies in the UK. Definitely unavailable in the legal market.
     
  4. P-35/53

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    I saw a Japanese made film on cable the other day , it was a sort of thriller involving a man who snuck into homes . Everybody in the movie on hearing an intruder grabbed a golf club . Japan is also restricive on weapons possesion so the gulf club might be the defacto choice.
     
  5. Skofnung

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    How about a sling for outdoor use? slinging.org

    For indoor use, a large framing hammer would look innocent enough to the powers that be, right?
     
  6. Lo.Com.Denom

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    Well, personally I certainly haven't ruled them out, as such -- studied arboriculture at college -- you can move them around at frightening speed, if you're brave enough. But if that chain strikes something the wrong way and rebounds, you can easily come a-cropper with some horrid results (we've all heard the horror stories:uhoh: ). Kind of puts them into the section labled "liability", rather than "weapon". Still, for intimidation...

    What kind of weight and velocity do those glass and plastic pellets have? I still think that the best way to encourage someone to leave your property is to hurl hard and heavy things at them, until they go away...
     
  7. madmike

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    I'll try to weigh some. Stand by a few hours.
     
  8. 1911JMB

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    I'd get a cane.
     
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    http://www.coldsteel.com/koga.html

    Try the SD1

    Its compact, painfull, and OBVIOUSLY intended, even to uber libbs, as a non-lethal Defencive weapon.
     
  10. stealthmode

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    some sort of short sword or machete, a club with spikes, cleaver in one hand butcher knife in the other slash and stab kind of thing.

    why dont you just start a revolution over there.
     
  11. Boom-stick

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    I don't think you could far wrong with having body tattoos, a la Max Cady from the film Cape Fear??
    Just standing there looking like a complete nutter should help a bit:)

    Or pouring a small bottle of fake blood over your head before they see you should work a treat:evil:

    Nothing like trying to attack someone that looks like they've just killed someone else......for fun:)
     
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    Ok. on a more serious note, get a small police riot shield and a baseball bat:)
     
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    Oh, good god.
     
  15. sm

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    I'm thinking Range Rover personally...

    Run over the perp, go "oopsy-daisy", and with the new "slap on the hands" policies one should just be free to go.

    'I say old Chap, the lever must have gone into forward I dare say'
     
  16. Nicky Santoro

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    Ka-Bar if the British nanny state will allow it. It doesn't get much more CQB than that, nor is there anything more up close and personal. BTDT, but with his knife, not mine and it wasn't a Ka-Bar.
     
  17. Thefabulousfink

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    The Cold Steel City Stick is completely legal and dang near indistuctible. Plus the steel cap makes a good striking point and you have better reach and leverage.

    http://www.coldsteel.com/citystick.html

    Edit: plus you can carry it anywhere w/o breaking any pesky "no-carry" laws.
     
  18. ryan b

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    I going to catch heck for this!
    MOVE!

    I would personally look at a good knife. But a good long piece of pipe works well too
     
  19. Burt Blade

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    Cricket bat?
     
  20. Lo.Com.Denom

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    Boom-Stick, my head says that that mask is the stupidest thing I've ever seen...

    My heart, however, says that I reallyreallyreally need one anyway...

    No, this mask was tested for NINJA!!
     
  21. Soap

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    Why not make a "tactical" knife that looks exactly like any common kitchen knife? It could have an 8" blade and be of thicker stock than a regular kitchen knife.
     
  22. Matt_W

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    KaBars etc are still legally available in the UK. It is unlawfull however for dealers to sell knives in such a way that suggests that they can be used in combat or as fighting knives.
     
  23. madmike

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    "While not a fighting knife itself, this lovely reproduction is identical in design, materials and workmanship to the knife used by US Marines and soldiers to slice thousands of Axis throats in WWII. It makes a fantastic display for your collection.":neener:
     
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    "This Ka Bar is a largely faithful reproduction of the 7-inch (177.8mm) utility knife widely distributed to American forces in World War 2. Do not be mistaken, the guards on both the spine and edge sides of this knife were not designed to catch the edge of say, a samurai sword, but rather to protect the hand of the user from riding onto the blade during those times it was necessary to repeatedly and deeply stab something, like, er, a fuel can to make a handy field shower.":D
     
  25. mhoneth

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    Rapier!

    As a fencer, I would have to recommend the rapier. A regular epee or foil is blunted, but can still cause serious injury at a distance of 4 meters (good for a hallway or other room). But a real rapier would be deadly.
    • No swinging required as these are piercing weapons.
    • Some are concealed in canes.
    • Silent.
    • Ready to use.
     
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